HumbleChief Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Not sure what it's called and I can get it done with arbitrary base line heights and some serious customization of each little roof plane but was wondering if there was a technique out there that will make it easier/quicker? It's the little eye brow like plane on top and this plan has 7 or 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryM8 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 In my area its referred to as a bullnose gable. Not sure so much though with helping you out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We call it a Dutch Gable or a Clipped Gable. I've made them only with custom roof planes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'm sure it has to be a custom roof plane - just wondering if there was a technique/method that was faster than choosing various baseline heights and trial and error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 How you make it depends on what you know about the roof. In your case, with an existing roof, I'd create the clipped plane at the measured pitch and make the eave side the measured length. I'd copy the ridge height of the main gable and enter it in the dialog box for the clipped plane. But yes, it may involve some trial and error, or more likely measuring in cross section to get it located properly.. With a new construction project I'd establish my desired plate height and pitch and adjust the roof plane to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Thanks Kevin. I didn't find another way other than drawing the roof planes and 'wiggling' them around with baseline height etc.until thy looked good. Didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Park Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 There are multiple solutions to this problem. Here is a help article showing how to do it using automatic roof generation: http://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00736/ In the article it's called a half hip. I'm not certain that's the correct name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Larry, quick vid if interested. http://youtu.be/T3PH0anMD-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We call that a half hip. (Google "half hip"). A Dutch gable is very different. Both roof styles can be done in a minute or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Here is a Dutch gable. (Google "Dutch Gable") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Very helpful you guys. Didn't know that Chief could build those automatically Dan. Thanks for the video Scott - that's the way I ended up building them pretty much step for step other than not really needing to set up the 45 as joining roof planes creates that 45 join automagically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Chief can build over two dozen roof styles automatically use auto first - then manual IF needed Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We have always been able to do the half hip automatically since V10 I believe. I do both manually very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 We call them Dutch Gables too ...which maybe wrong ...but looking on Google it is also called a JerkinHead Roof or a Tudor Hip in some places, neither term I have heard before here.. Half Hip is another term used per the Automatic Roofs dialog. http://architecture.about.com/od/general/ig/Roof-Styles/Jerkinhead-Roof.htm similar thread on Contractor Talk and they think 1/3 or 1/4 the Gable height for the "Clipping point" or "when you view it from above it should be an equilateral triangle" http://www.contractortalk.com/f14/jerkinhead-roof-design-111872/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Very easily done automatically by adjusting it in the wall DBX. Chief has videos on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VHampton Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Clipped gable is what that is. Unless you're Dutch ...and happen to wear clogs on the job site ....instead of Timberlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco2017 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 We call it a clipped gable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Around these parts we call them "Jerk-in-head"... They were common in the late 80s around here. I think I saw one going on a house 2 or 3 years ago but haven't really caught on again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Chief calls these Half Hip Style in the Roof Styles Panel of the Build Roof dbx. I think they can be automatically generated. Then there is the reverse system called a California Gable. Those are the kind that has a small gable (kind of like an inline dormer) projecting out from ridge on a hip roof. Chief doesn't include those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Think that Cali.Gable is a Dutch Gable Joe? there is a Kb Tut. on those too.... http://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00749/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 *For other users who want to create half-hip the easy and accurate way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 *For other users who want to create half-hip the easy and accurate way.Interesting, did you notice where the roof base Lind was located?In fact the IN FROM BASELINE is wrong because if you look closely, it is from eave and not baseline. I understand you can do it auto, I am just surprised that people would determine the geometry by defining that particular distance. It seems more logical to define the distance from gable end wall to the hip, which is where a truss or rafter would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 In fact the IN FROM BASELINE is wrong because if you look closely, it is from eave and not baseline. Ask Chief why it is so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 I am just surprised that people would determine the geometry by defining that particular distance. We PEOPLE interpret the half-hip baseline as the attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 We PEOPLE interpret the half-hip baseline as the attached. I am not sure what that means. Here's a question: Would the IN FROM BASELINE always be 8'? What is determining this distance? Understanding the longer the gable wall, the taller the roof peek, so without adjusting the IN FROM BASELINE distance, the "clipped roof " size changes. It just seems the controlling length should be the distance from gable wall to hip. Nuts, everybody is happy with the way it is, I will stop beating my head against the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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