Designer100 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Can anyone help me with this roof? You cannot use automatic roof etc. I have been messing with this for 4 hours trying to fix this roof. front to back is 8:12 and sides 10:12 and some sides 8:12. It says to large to upload? what can I do? Thanks for any help. chief architect x7 713.385.3622 newell.cheatheam@gmail.com Luedeker 3.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Do you want the existing file repaired? I cannot tell what is "right or wrong" with this file, I can see the roof planes that need editing but without knowing in some detail what you actually intend,it would be guessing and I prefer not to guess. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Here is me fiddling around with your plan based upon what I know, hope it helps you: https://youtu.be/YJdAqUTWpDo DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 The problem is that your geometry will not allow the roof planes to meet. The one area that is a problem is the roof over Bath 3 and the Attic. If you want to retain the existing roof pitches, you need to reduce the ceiling height in those 2 rooms to 238". This will then allow the lower roof to build over those 2 rooms as a single plane. The roofs CAN be built automatically - very easy. Is this what you are after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Here is the fixed plan with auto build roofs. Apart from the problem with the ceiling heights at the rear of level 2, there were 2 roof pitches defined for the gable behind the chimney. You will need to fix up the columns in the front porch. If you don't want to drop the ceiling heights in the bath and attic, you will need to increase the pitch or height of the roofs coming up from the rear of the ground floor (if you want the upper and lower roofs to be coplanar). Luedeker 3 fixed by Glenn (2).zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Glenn, YOU never cease to amaze me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Glenn, YOU never cease to amaze me! I know, and with one hand tied behind his back on.................. gasp...................... imperial plans. That alone is worth an award. I love metric, and wish we would finally switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That alone is worth an award. I love metric, and wish we would finally switch. Not me , at this stage in my life, I just don't want to learn a new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I know, and with one hand tied behind his back on.................. gasp...................... imperial plans. That alone is worth an award. I love metric, and wish we would finally switch. I'm not in to Metric either! Like Perry, this old dog doesn't care to learn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_g Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 There's really nothing to learn. Everything is divisible by 10. And 1000sf is roughly 100sm. I did my first metric job a few years ago in Bangkok for a friend. It was a 230sm renovation of a condo. There wasn't any learning curve whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What about dimensions and fractions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_g Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 What about dimensions and fractions? That's the beauty. There are no fractions. Just meters, centimeters, and millimeters. All divisible by 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 There's really nothing to learn. Everything is divisible by 10. And 1000sf is roughly 100sm. I did my first metric job a few years ago in Bangkok for a friend. It was a 230sm renovation of a condo. There wasn't any learning curve whatsoever. Agreed, I too thought it would be hard to learn, but there really was no learning curve at all. Very simple, never deal with fractions, and so much easier than imperial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That's the beauty. There are no fractions. Just meters, centimeters, and millimeters. All divisible by 10. In Oz, we don't even use centimeters, just meters and millimeters, but mostly just millimeters. The only difference really is where the decimal point goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I wish everything was metric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 +10.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithhe Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 In Oz, we don't even use centimeters, just meters and millimeters, but mostly just millimeters. The only difference really is where the decimal point goes. Yeah, in metric plans I've done, I simply just use mm (other than site stuff where meters are easier with smaller numbers). No thinking involved, no math, no calculators, no fractions, just easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That's a nice wish but be careful what you wish for. It would cause a lot of teeth gnashing when trying to do a remodel in the USA. All of our existing construction is based on 12" increments. (304.8 mm) which would be a b****h to work with. A meter is a nice module but I think (I could be wrong) most metric sheet goods are 1200x2400 mm (just under 4'x8'). Maybe it's 1220x2440 which is just over 4'x8'. IAE, it's not really as simple as just changing the units. Lots of manufacturing would have to be changed an a lot of old guys would need their brains re-wired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Chief makes working in both formats easy - especially for dimensions. You can choose to show both metric and imperial units by using the Secondary Format. Or you can change the default Format between Metric and Imperial. This means that you can draw a plan in imperial and then change the default format to metric and all the dimensions will change to metric - how easy is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Glenn, From that standpoint it's very easy. But from a standpoint of working between an Imperial and a Metric country it gets more complicated because the sizes of the manufactured materials are just not equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_NY61 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Using construction calculator if you convert 4' X 8' into mm to be exact you get 1219.2mm X 2438.4mm Joe is right it would create a big mess in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_g Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Sheet goods are generally easy to cut. Also it wouldn't have to be an "all or nothing" kind of thing. 4x8's could be special ordered. England managed to do it in 1965. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Australia changed to decimal currency back in 1966 and 1971 for measurements. What...Oz can do it, but the US can't! Just to keep things consistent, maybe you should go the other way and go completely imperial and use Imperial pounds, shillings and pence for your currency! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Winsor Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 They tried changing the gas pumps to liters (or was that litres?) here a while back. I think it lasted about six months. It's not that we can't change to metric but rather we don't want to change. Besides Imperial has a nice ring to it. Heck, you metric guys are so screwed up you probably only get 10 eggs in a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It would be a lot easier for the entire world to adopt the "Carrick Calendar" which is based on the lunar month than for the USA to adopt the Metric system of measurement. OTOH, we long ago adopted a decimal monetary system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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