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I have set in default settings to apply a shoe mold to cabinet bases.  However, when adding the cabinets, the shoe does not appear in 3D views.

The only way I seem to be able to do this is to manually edit every cabinet and add the shoe mold individually.

 

What am I doing wrong/missing?

 

Thanks.

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are those moldings turned on in the 3D view?

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I assume so since I am able to manually add the moldings to each individual cabinet object and they show up in the 3D view that Default moldings applied to cabinets would show up there as well.  Is there another place I need to check?

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Why don't you just post a small plan with the set up and somebody will give you an answer in about 23.23 seconds.  Thank you.

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It works for me.

Did you set the offset to 0.00 from Bottom in the Defaults?  Otherwise the molding would probably be on the edge of the Counter Top.

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Cabinet moldings are not dynamic defaults.

 

This means that if you add or change any moldings in your cabinet defaults that it will not affect any cabinets that have already been placed.  It should show up for any new cabinets that are placed though.

 

If you need to change the moldings for any previously placed cabinets, you can group select them to add/change the molding.  You could also delete the existing ones and place new ones.

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I do think there should be some more intelligence to the selection and placement of moldings on Cabinets.

 

With the Room Moldings, when a "Crown Molding" is selected, Chief assumes it should be at the ceiling and when a "Base Molding" is selected Chief assumes it should be at the floor.

 

It just makes sense to me that the same should be true for Cabinets.  IOW, if I add a "Base Molding" to a Cabinet or to the Cabinet Defaults, Chief should recognize that it should be at the bottom, not at the top.  If I add a "Edge Molding" then it should be on the Counter Top.

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Why don't you just post a small plan with the set up and somebody will give you an answer in about 23.23 seconds.  Thank you.

 

I've attached a new basic X7 plan.

I've tried applying the default settings after setting the defaults.

 

I am obviously missing something.

 

Thanks for the help and input.

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select the base with the molding. Then click on the set as default icon on the far right of the bar.(bottom of screen)<br />then all the base cabinets will come in as B33 with the molding.

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Basil,

The existing cabinets will not be changed by changing the defaults.  Moldings are not one of the things that are in the Object Specification as (D). Only new cabinets placed in the plan will have the default moldings.

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By any chance, in the main cabinet DBX to you have the cabinet Floor to Bottom set at Auto Adjust Height, Use Finish Floor. If not the small molding will be hidden by the floor material thickness.

 

Graham

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By any chance, in the main cabinet DBX to you have the cabinet Floor to Bottom set at Auto Adjust Height, Use Finish Floor. If not the small molding will be hidden by the floor material thickness.

 

Graham

 

Gotta run to a job site...  I'll look at this when I return.  Thanks.

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Maybe I misunderstand , but I opened your test plan and placed several new cabinets and they all placed with the 1/4 RD molding no problem.

 

 

 

 

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Mick,

 

Look at Dermot's post #6 and my post #10.  It's working exactly as it's supposed to.  The cabinet in his plan that doesn't have the base molding was placed before he changed the defaults.

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I thought it was working as wanted/expected ,as you point out Joe, but thought he was saying it still wasn't working ...at least for him...

 

M.

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Is this an example where you can use the USE SAME PROPERTIES EYEDROPPER.  I profess my ignorance to this new tool,  but CA and some others think it is the best thing since the belly putter.  

 

Will this tool work for moldings?

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I think he just expected that existing cabine

 

Is this an example where you can use the USE SAME PROPERTIES EYEDROPPER.  I profess my ignorance to this new tool,  but CA and some others think it is the best thing since the belly putter.  

 

Will this tool work for moldings?

I haven't tried it but it should.

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Yes.  I see where it is working for you all with the plan I uploaded, however as Kbird1 indicated, it is not working for me.

I do not know what setting else can be the cause?

 

I have included this video of me checking the settings and performing the task of adding new cabinets to both in plan and 3D view.  Cabinets are still not applied with moldings from the default settings. However I am able to manually add them manually by editing the cabinet object.

 

Please note, I have also since installed X7 in a Parallels desktop virtual Windows 8.1 session and it performs identically...  Obviously I am doing something incorrectly.

 

Thanks for taking a look to see if I am overlooking something...  I appreciate and further feedback or suggestions...

 

http://www.screencast.com/t/2OGeYD3lUJz

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I believe it is because you are getting the new cabinet from the library and the default settings do not apply in that case.

Defaults only apply to cabinets placed directly with the cabinet tools.

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Agree Glenn. Catalog items are not affected by default settings. Cabinets must be chosen from task bar above Build Cabinets. That's why it worked for all of us when we downloaded the test plan.

 

Graham

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Catalog items are not affected by default settings.

Those that use dynamic defaults are -this confused me no end in the beginning.

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Mark - was not aware of this. How does one no which catalog items that have dynamic defaults?

 

Graham

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Dynamic defaults are those things you see in the dbx that are marked "Default" or (D).  If you change the Plan Defaults, any such item will use those values.

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Hi Joe - I was wondering if they are identified in the library catalog so you know before selecting the item.

 

Graham

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Hi Joe - I was wondering if they are identified in the library catalog so you know before selecting the item.

 

Graham

That depends entirely on what the settings were when they were added to the Library.  In the case of most Chief supplied symbols I would assume the answer would be yes.  For things you add to the User Library it depends on what you saved them as.

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