ACADuser Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Quite annoying, I have 4 or 5 commands to undo as I was trying to move the stair & needed to adjust dimensions. Point is I am in a section view & need to UNDO 4 or 5 times to undo the stair rotation which took place in the plan view. Hell i don't remember if it was 4 or 5 undoes that are needed. Why doesn't the UNDO report the command or operation it is Undoing!? Why doesn't it undo a change in the view I am in so i can follow along the path that took me here? How can a mature software like CA not address these items. OK Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Do you know you can set the number of undo's in Preferences, just in case you didn't know. That would be good to list the undo's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwideziner Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I find it normally just undos back to the last save, not just the last operation. This is painful at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I have mine set to undo 10 times. Generally that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 My limited experience is that UNDO works on each operation I preformed but only if it changed geometry. Point is you are flying blind due to the fact the program is not telling you what operation it is undoing. Hate to keep comparing this to Autocad but it is my Gold Standard. Autocad undo will tell you what each command it is undoing. Like PAN, MOVE, LINE, etc. You can even set an Undo Mark when you know you want to undo from this point onward. Do your changes then UNDO back to that Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hate to keep comparing this to Autocad but it is my Gold Standard. Autocad undo will tell you what each command it is undoing. Like PAN, MOVE, LINE, etc. You can even set an Undo Mark when you know you want to undo from this point onward. Do your changes then UNDO back to that Mark. Yep - love that functionality. And AutoCAD isn't the only program I've used that uses more robust, user-friendly Undo operations; I use one at home that gives a pop-up box detailing the operation to Undo when I hover the mouse over the Undo icon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Photoshop keeps a list of operations in its History. You can bring it up in a tool box and choose where you want to go back to. A visual undo and redo would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'm pretty sure its been asked for before, but this should be posted in the suggestion section. Not knowing what we're undoing can be a huge nuisance. Sometimes its something you can only see by opening a dbx. and sometimes it seems...simply opening a dbx records as an undo so you can never really tell how many undos it takes to get back to point A. Its really easy to undo too far and end up undoing something you didn't want to undo without noticing it. I would give this suggestion an enthusiastic thumbs up. I would probably put this among top 3 in my wish list now that I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMBuilder Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Yes! I totally agree, I use undo every day and waste a lot of time making sure I didn't go back too many steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysdesigning Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I set my UNDO to 99 times in the preferences. I think 99 is the max! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Hmmm, 99 is way too much and impossible to keep track of and it will bog down your plan immensely probably to the point it will be difficult to make the next change 10 is probably the largest useful setting I have mine set to 5 as I do "save as" quite frequently Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hmmm, 99 is way too much and impossible to keep track of and it will bog down your plan immensely probably to the point it will be difficult to make the next change Is this true? I've never tested it. Chief saves its undo information in separate .plan and .layout files. I can't open any of them - an "assertion failed" error dbx pops up when I try; but the file sizes are large enough that I suspect they must be near-duplicates of the original file, and this might explain why undo operations take so long. I don't think that the number of undos set in preferences affects working within the plan/layout, though the size of the plan/layout file definitely affects how long it takes to undo an operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Robert: thru the years CA has stated that a large # of undo's can slow down working in the plan I have always kept my # low Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Robert: thru the years CA has stated that a large # of undo's can slow down working in the plan I have always kept my # low Lew Ok, thanks - didn't know that. I have mine set at 50. When I think about it, I would never have the patience to sit through 50 Chief undo operations. I'll try bumping down my undos, and auto-saving more often (though I hate sitting around for autosave to finish - on my computer it's a very noticeable hiccup). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Robert: I prefer to do my own "save as" I keep Chief's archive setttings at the minimum as a former 30+ year programmer I prefer saving when I want to save and using my own naming conventions etc Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Yes, Chief has said that large undo's will slow down the program in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The number of undo's saved should have little to do with the speed of Chief. It will add to the number of temporary files on your system, which in the extreme could have an effect on your overall computer speed under certain obscure circumstances. However, if they are getting cleaned up properly this shouldn't be a problem. Cleaning out your temporary files folder from time to time is a good maintenece thing to do to keep your computer responsive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 The number of undo's saved should have little to do with the speed of Chief. It will add to the number of temporary files on your system, which in the extreme could have an effect on your overall computer speed under certain obscure circumstances. However, if they are getting cleaned up properly this shouldn't be a problem. Cleaning out your temporary files folder from time to time is a good maintenece thing to do to keep your computer responsive. Okay. This confirms what I suspected. I believe the SIZE of a plan affects the SIZE of an undo, which affects the speed at which an undo (or series of undos) can be applied. Thanks Doug for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragetoca Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Doug - what about a history list of commands so one can undo by picking a list? Like mentioned before, Autocad, Photoshop have this and it is a very useful feature, imperative to have in CA - Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_Park Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Good suggestions. Making undo/redo fast seems most important to me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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