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Is it possible to show joist hangers using Premier x12?  I am building a deck and it attaches to the house via a band that is bolted to the house and the joists are attached with joist hangers.

 

 

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Yes, it is possible but the hoist hangers have to be positioned manually as symbols.

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Yes there are a bunch in the Simpson catalog under 3D Objects.  Just place and position one and then multi copy.

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Yep...check out "Simpson Strong Tie"...in the manufacturers library.  1st folder listed is 3D object...there are hangers in the catalog.  Placing them at the correct elevation can be tricky...but once you get one in the right place you can use "multiple copy"...or, "transform replicate" and duplicate as needed.

 

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3 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

Yes there are a bunch in the Simpson catalog under 3D Objects.  Just place and position one and then multi copy.


you can also use a distribution line to make changes to layout or placement a lot quicker and easier.

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1 minute ago, Alaskan_Son said:


you can also use a distribution line to make changes to layout or placement a lot quicker and easier.

 

Good one Michael.  I never think about using that tool...

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2 minutes ago, SNestor said:

Placing them at the correct elevation can be tricky...


I personally modify the Z offset and add to my library so that I can just use the hoist top or bottom height when placing future instances.

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5 minutes ago, SNestor said:

 

Good one Michael.  I never think about using that tool...


Yeah, it’s useful for a lot of random things. Another example I use it for is for closet rod plan view display.  I have a CAD block with I think four pieces of randomly position hangers/clothing.  I assign that CAD Block to a distribution line and then just copy and paste that around my plan and resize as necessary.  That’s just a simple one though. There are tons of other pretty great applications.

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5 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:


Yeah, it’s useful for a lot of random things. Another example I use it for is for closet rod plan view display.  I have a CAD block with I think four pieces of randomly position hangers/clothing.  I assign that CAD Block to a distribution line and then just copy and paste that around my plan and resize as necessary.  That’s just a simple one though. There are tons of other pretty great applications.

 

Great tip as usual from you Michael.  Thanks so much!

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Forgive my ignorance but what is a "distribution line"?

 

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5 minutes ago, ACADuser said:

Forgive my ignorance but what is a "distribution line"?

 

I believe the proper term is "Polyline Distribution Path"  image.png.f57302f2f2b02176373356e2c03b70db.png

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OK found it:

Distributed Objects

The Distributed Object tools allow you to place multiple copies of an object in an evenly spaced array, either within a region or along a path. Select Build> Distributed Object to access these tools.

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6 minutes ago, ACADuser said:

The Distributed Object tools allow you to place multiple copies of an object in an evenly spaced array,

Or a random array. Great for planting beds...random sizes, rotations and locations.

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2 hours ago, Chopsaw said:

 

I believe the proper term is "Polyline Distribution Path"  image.png.f57302f2f2b02176373356e2c03b70db.png

 

Oops.  Yes, Distribution Path is what I meant.  I was away from my computer and the proper term was escaping me.

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Distribution path control is pretty cool if you want to go random spacing, and random sizing.  Watch the Chief video to see it used in landscaping, and you get the idea.

 

Clothes hanger groups could be randomly spaced.

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2 hours ago, ACADuser said:

OK found it:

 

Distributed Objects

The Distributed Object tools allow you to place multiple copies of an object in an evenly spaced array, either within a region or along a path. Select Build> Distributed Object to access these tools.

 

Definitely comes in handy sometimes.  Random example is I was working on a faux victorian style home and they wanted a decorative railing above a small non-parapet roof trim where putting an actual railing would not work correctly due to the actual roof placement.  Distribution line and a molding line for the railing, quick and simple. :)

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17 hours ago, SNestor said:

 

Great tip as usual from you Michael.  Thanks so much!

 

You're more than welcome.  Here's another one...Add an arrow to your Distribution Path and connect it to the appropriate object(s) to get automated resizing of said path...

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3 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

You're more than welcome.  Here's another one...Add an arrow to your Distribution Path and connect it to the appropriate object(s) to get automated resizing of said path...

Ain't that the neatest trick! And you can marquee select the distribution path and add it to the library! LU210's are at the same height on almost every plan I do so this is very cool way to add hangers super fast.

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9 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Ain't that the neatest trick! And you can marquee select the distribution path and add it to the library! LU210's are at the same height on almost every plan I do so this is very cool way to add hangers super fast.

Change the CAD Block for those hangers and then you're really in business...

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Thanks to everyone.  This is great information.  I ended up using Multiple copies and it worked fine.  It is good to know there are so many options. 

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On 6/25/2020 at 11:24 AM, Alaskan_Son said:

Add an arrow to your Distribution Path and connect it to the appropriate object(s) to get automated resizing of said path...

That looks very cool, but I'm slow on the uptake...  little help?  You're not talking about the 'include arrow' option within the distribution path dbx are you? 
I don't see an arrow in your animated example

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1 minute ago, DzinEye said:

You're not talking about the 'include arrow' option within the distribution path dbx are you? 

 

Yes.  I am.

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4 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

Yes.  I am.

Ahh.. now I get it.  Before I questioned you I had tried the arrow but it didn't seem like it did anything... I couldn't see the arrow.  I was expecting it to come off like a leader.  Now I see it is the same position as the distribution path.   Very nice... thx for the tip!

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2 minutes ago, DzinEye said:

Ahh.. now I get it.  Before I questioned you I had tried the arrow but it didn't seem like it did anything... I couldn't see the arrow.  I was expecting it to come off like a leader.  Now I see it is the same position as the distribution path.   Very nice... thx for the tip!

 

The distribution path dialog actually allows you to add an arrow (which by the way you can make the invisible arrow style or a zero size), however you can take advantage of the connective behavior of arrows for pretty much any open polyline based object by adding the arrow before you convert your polyline to something else.

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4 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

The distribution path dialog actually allows you to add an arrow (which by the way you can make the invisible arrow style or a zero size), however you can take advantage of the connective behavior of arrows for pretty much any open polyline based object by adding the arrow before you convert your polyline to something else.

Thanks, that's definitely going to keep my brain cells busy thinking about the possibilities.  I was still playing with this newfound leader ability... adding segments, curving... it's a really powerful tool.  

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