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Square footage not displaying

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This is a common problem and a forum search should return the answer.

 

Post back if you cannot find it.

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Run "Plan Check" (Tools - Checks - Plan Check") while on the floor that is missing it's "LIVING AREA" display. Running that check will restore it to view per floor. All answers to all questions reside in your Reference Manual, Help files, or the Chief Architect Website - Knowledge Base. Learning where and when to look is a large part of becoming competent.

 

DJP

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I found the frustration of others through the search.  Plan check did not solve the problem.  I ended up using a text macro to solve it.  Weird why it appears to be happening within the past few months. Thanks

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9 minutes ago, mpatalsky said:

Plan check did not solve the problem

 

It should , but you need to run it on each floor as David noted above I believe

 

certainly is a weird quirk though....

 

M.

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yeah I did it on each floor I was having the issue with no luck.  I read someone else had my same luck with it not working.

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21 hours ago, mpatalsky said:

yeah I did it on each floor I was having the issue with no luck.  I read someone else had my same luck with it not working.

 

I believe it uses Room Definition and the Condition Space Living Space setting in the Room's DBX since it is "Living Area"  so if either of those conditions is compromised it may not work.

 

I think @Dermot   posted about this recently , so maybe he can elaborate more for you....

 

M.

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3 hours ago, mpatalsky said:

Any ideas why square footage is only being displayed on the first floor and not the basement and second?

Chase Full Foundation.plan

 

Not sure if I have captured the problem because I couldn't reproduce it, but I took a swing at answering a possible cause.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Doug_N said:

Not sure if I have captured the problem

 

I believe the problem is the Living Area Label.

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On floor 2, all your rooms are defined as Exclude from Total Living Area Calculation.

Change them to Include in Total Living Area Calculation.

Do a Plan Check to display the Living Area.

 

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I believe it uses Room Definition and the Condition Space setting since it is "Living Area"

Living Area uses the Living Area property, not the Conditioned Room property.

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Floor zero has a problem.  I ran check, made sure the rooms were checked to be included, and did not return a Living Area number.  Check says the plan has problems but does not identify them.

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19 hours ago, Doug_N said:

Not sure if I have captured the problem because I couldn't reproduce it, but I took a swing at answering a possible cause.

 

 

Sorry Doug I was unclear, it's the Living Area. It's only displayed on the first floor. My only fix was to at a text macro to calculate it. Thanks for you time.

 

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16 hours ago, glennw said:

On floor 2, all your rooms are defined as Exclude from Total Living Area Calculation.

Change them to Include in Total Living Area Calculation.

Do a Plan Check to display the Living Area.

 

Living Area uses the Living Area property, not the Conditioned Room property.

Yes I caught that after I uploaded the file and corrected that and ran plan check with no success.

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Finally got a chance to open the Plan and have a look , was working from memory yesterday, and Plan Check works on the 2nd floor but not the basement level ( no errors) once the include in Living Area Calculation box is checked in all rooms...

 

Maybe worth sending in as even after I removed all interior doors in the basement , and the bathroom not having a Fan ( or window) yet should have triggered a Plan Check Error ( multiple really) ,  at least those conditions on others floors normally do.

 

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4 hours ago, mpatalsky said:

Sorry Doug I was unclear, it's the Living Area. It's only displayed on the first floor. My only fix was to at a text macro to calculate it. Thanks for you time.

 

Mike

 

You're are entirely welcome. it was a fun exercise anyway.   Glad the answer was found for the problem.

 

Doug

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I think basement levels are always a little weird, both with regard to the Living Area label and with regard to the Plan Check tool.  At any rate, you can trick Chief into giving you back your Living Area Label on Floor 0 by enclosing a little room off to the side that is completely separate from the rest of the structure.  Now connect that room to the existing structure with a connecting wall.  Now simply delete all those new walls. 

 

What's really happening is that you're tricking Chief into recognizing a new Living Area and therefore generating a new Living Area Label.  When you draw the connecting wall, Chief considers them both part of the same structure and includes both areas in the total.  Deleting the extra walls just deletes that one room and the new label stays.

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The Alaskan Wizard never fails to amaze us!  Nice one, Michael.

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you can trick Chief into giving you back your Living Area Label on Floor 0 by enclosing a little room off to the side that is completely separate from the rest of the structure.  Now connect that room to the existing structure with a connecting wall.  Now simply delete all those new walls. 

 

Michael:

 

Nice workaround

 

I sure hope CA fixes this newbie trap soon

 

Lew

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1 hour ago, lbuttery said:

Nice workaround

 

Thanks Lew.  I have to say that this one indeed qualifies as a genuine workaround.

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