Joe_Carrick

Swimming Pool surrounded by a Slab?

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I've been trying to come up with a way of doing this so that:

 

  1. It looks right in 3D
  2. There's an optional Pool Deck Edge (probably a Molding)
  3. The Slab (Pool Deck) has a hole that moves with the Pool
  4. Pool Surface is below top of the Slab
  5. Pool has a variable depth

 

It's not easy.  Does anyone have a great method for doing it?

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Depends what you call great! A combination of slabs, p-solids drawn in plan and elevation views, moldings, 3d moldings, and so on. Here's a few shots of a 'zero-edge' pool I recently completed.

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How many hours ... ?  Great looking pool

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I recently used a 6" concrete foundation Wall-type with pool tile on 1 side to make a "Room" which I then split into 3-4 Areas with different heights , eg for the deep end, Spa Pool Area and 6" deep sunbathing area.

 

The rest is Polyline Solids (with Holes as needed) except the stairs.

 

 

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Very simple pool, but this was my solution:

Roof Plane for the sloping pool deck with a Hole to cut out the pool shape.

Slab for the pool bottom.

Molding Polyline for the pool tile & trim, and the coping tile and cap.

Polyline Solid for the water surface.

 

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Hi Robert,

 

That's a pretty nice solution.

I'm not sure how well it would work with a oval or kidney shaped pool. 

 

One of the things I am most interested in is being able to get and display the areas of water and the pool deck as separate items.

  • The PSolid and Roof Plane should be sufficient for that.

 

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5 hours ago, Joe_Carrick said:

Hi Robert,

 

That's a pretty nice solution.

I'm not sure how well it would work with a oval or kidney shaped pool. 

 

One of the things I am most interested in is being able to get and display the areas of water and the pool deck as separate items.

  • The PSolid and Roof Plane should be sufficient for that.

 

I use Kbirds method, walls cut terrain so it works quite well, additionally I'd be happy to do a custom molded insert imported from sketchup..would take me next to no time, maybe 10 minutes, let me know.

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34 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

I'd be happy to do a custom molded insert imported from sketchup..would take me next to no time, maybe 10 minutes, let me know.

Thanks for the offer - but I'm more interested in a generic approach that I can use for a variety of different shapes and configurations.

Ideally, it would be a specific tool (Terrain Feature - Swimming Pool) with all the options.

 

I'm probably just dreaming. ;)

 

For now, I will plan on using Robert's method - at least until something better comes to mind.

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Hey Joe,  this is. my method. (I can't slope the pool bottom.

 

1-  Create Terrain

2- Create terrain feature for the pool deck (NOT A SIDEWALK),  check clip overlapping terrain

3- Create terrain feature for the pool,  make it -72" height and 72" thick

 

My. picture shows those three elements.

Now copy the pool and turn it into a molding for the coping. 

 

Maybe you already use this down and dirty method.

 

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1 hour ago, Joe_Carrick said:

at least until something better comes to mind.

This is the best method for most pools IMO:

4 walls can get you a square /round pool that can be moved/filled/ has molding profiles/has wall coverings/shows water...easy to control, manipulate and move around, looks great in 3d

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7 hours ago, rlackore said:

Very simple pool, but this was my solution:

Roof Plane for the sloping pool deck with a Hole to cut out the pool shape.

Slab for the pool bottom.

Molding Polyline for the pool tile & trim, and the coping tile and cap.

Polyline Solid for the water surface.

 

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Looks good! 2 questions: which materials (and settings) for your grass and water?

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3 hours ago, dshall said:

Hey Joe,  this is. my method. (I can't slope the pool bottom.

 

1-  Create Terrain

2- Create terrain feature for the pool deck (NOT A SIDEWALK),  check clip overlapping terrain

3- Create terrain feature for the pool,  make it -72" height and 72" thick

 

My. picture shows those three elements.

Now copy the pool and turn it into a molding for the coping. 

 

Maybe you already use this down and dirty method.

 

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Hey Scott remember when we used roads with a curb to do pools

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15 hours ago, robdyck said:

Looks good! 2 questions: which materials (and settings) for your grass and water?

 

The rendering was completed in Twinmotion; the grass and water textures are materials native to that program.

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16 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

Very cool idea!

 

This is the best method for most pools IMO:

4 walls can get you a square /round pool that can be moved/filled/ has molding profiles/has wall coverings/shows water...easy to control, manipulate and move around, looks great in 3d

 

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16 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

4 walls can get you a square /round pool that can be moved/filled/ has molding profiles/has wall coverings/shows water...easy to control, manipulate and move around, looks great in 3d

Thanks for the video.  I think I will set up your method so I can use it in the future.  Just need to get all the pieces together and organize in my user library.

 

Some questions:

  • What did you use for the Pool Deck (slab, stepping stone, etc) so that it automatically adjusted when you changed the size/shape of the pool?
  • Couldn't you use the "ceiling" as the water surface instead of a molding?

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19 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

 

 

This is the best method for most pools IMO:

4 walls can get you a square /round pool that can be moved/filled/ has molding profiles/has wall coverings/shows water...easy to control, manipulate and move around, looks great in 3d

 

Thanks Rene , interesting step up from the Room Based Idea I used..... in my case the Patio etc was already there so I just cut Holes in it for the Pool and didn't delve into the Use of Room Moldings for the Coping etc , seems to work well, so will have to try it next time around.

 

Mick.

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On 10/16/2019 at 3:59 PM, DRAWZILLA said:

Hey Scott remember when we used roads with a curb to do pools

 

Yes I do,  but I really like Rene's method.  The only down side is the terrain intersected by building needs to be checked.....  but very small downside

 

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I also like Rene's method.  I made a few tweaks for my own purposes:

  1. Created a 8" concrete stem wall with a thin white plaster interior surface - added to Library
  2. Created moldings for both the cove base and the tile coping - added to Library
  3. Use a thin tiled cove molding for the water-line (1/4" thick x 6" high)
  4. Use a Room Ceiling for the water surface

This eliminates the need for any additional molding polylines and just moving the walls results in everything being adjusted accordingly.

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