dshall 1514 Posted August 29, 2018 Can you figure out what this is? LEO PLAN 1C BBB FENCE ISSUE.plan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlackore 407 Posted August 29, 2018 Scott, when I try to download your plan I get this: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NRST8TRKR 28 Posted August 29, 2018 Scott, Look like miniature cross section views. But it is a strain on my old eyes,Ken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NRST8TRKR 28 Posted August 29, 2018 I got that same message ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumbleChief 481 Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, rlackore said: Scott, when I try to download your plan I get this: I get the same message - it looks like a ledger stone artifact - but you most likely already knew that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HumbleChief 481 Posted August 29, 2018 Please post a readable plan......sorry couldn't resist... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshall 1514 Posted August 29, 2018 Sorry Guys, try this, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/luxmedi6xxwmxjr/AACjLK7eNOP3yLY3kcowScYBa?dl=0 maybe it was too big to post directly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chopsaw 661 Posted August 29, 2018 Maybe even too big for dropbox. I get "This folder is empty". What else could go wrong ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshall 1514 Posted August 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Maybe even too big for dropbox. I get "This folder is empty". What else could go wrong ? Hi Chop, sorry about wasting your time, it is in there now and I was able to extract it so all is well,' sorry again for wasting your time, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlackore 407 Posted August 29, 2018 It's got something to do with the default pony wall. If you check the pony wall tick box, then uncheck it, the artifact goes away: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlackore 407 Posted August 29, 2018 This is a goofball of a wall. The only way I could get everything to model correctly was to simply place a room divider parallel to the exterior wall and drag the fence back so it joins with the room divider and not the exterior wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshall 1514 Posted August 29, 2018 Thanks for looking at this Robert..... I gave the fence a room definition and now it is fix..... weird... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NRST8TRKR 28 Posted August 29, 2018 Scott, in looking at the materials I see interior and exterior wall surface Aspen and that is what it appears to be when I zoom in as close as possible. Don't know what it would do if you delete these materials from here. I didn't try it yet,Ken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbird1 822 Posted August 29, 2018 1 hour ago, dshall said: Sorry Guys, try this, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/luxmedi6xxwmxjr/AACjLK7eNOP3yLY3kcowScYBa?dl=0 maybe it was too big to post directly 25mb should be fine direct on Forum, the Dropbox File is 22.5mb but not sure if you pared it down before reposting there? 18 minutes ago, dshall said: Thanks for looking at this Robert..... I gave the fence a room definition and now it is fix..... weird... One to send in perhaps so they can look at it.... Oh.... I keep getting a warning message about a Floor or Ceiling Platform Hole that is not entirely within it's Platform, switching annotations and selecting the wall at the Corner trigger it it seems .....maybe that is the issue ? M. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshall 1514 Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Kbird1 said: ........ Oh.... I keep getting a warning message about a Floor or Ceiling Platform Hole that is not entirely within it's Platform, switching annotations and selecting the wall at the Corner trigger it it seems .....maybe that is the issue ? M. I do not think that is the issue, that is a hole in ceiling at the second floor that I am not using..... I was too lazy to delete it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kbird1 822 Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, dshall said: I do not think that is the issue, that is a hole in ceiling at the second floor that I am not using..... I was too lazy to delete it. Forgot you use a 2nd floor even when there isn't one , so didn't look up there for it , the popup was getting annoying M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glennw 1027 Posted August 30, 2018 Scott, Ken is correct, the material is Aspen and it is assigned to the interior and exterior faces of the wall. The fences are obviously screwy. If I uncheck Follow Terrain, they disappear off the floor plan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshall 1514 Posted August 30, 2018 4 hours ago, glennw said: Scott, Ken is correct, the material is Aspen and it is assigned to the interior and exterior faces of the wall. The fences are obviously screwy. If I uncheck Follow Terrain, they disappear off the floor plan. This is not the first time I have issues with the fence I am using. Sometimes it frames at the bottom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe_Carrick 2364 Posted August 30, 2018 Scott, You should probably select a simpler Wall_Type for your fences. I use a single transparent layer just the thickness I need. Never use a Wall_Type with a framing material and avoid Pony Walls. This pretty much goes for Railing Walls as well. I think Chief's Default Fence Wall_Type uses 2x4 Fir Studs. Change that material to a non-framing material (preferably transparent) and the framing problem will go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glennw 1027 Posted August 30, 2018 Scott, It has something to do with the fence abutting the garage wall. If you pull the fence away from the wall, the Aspen things go away. I am off to bed now but will play a bit more if I get time tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dshall 1514 Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Joe_Carrick said: Scott, You should probably select a simpler Wall_Type for your fences. I use a single transparent layer just the thickness I need. Never use a Wall_Type with a framing material and avoid Pony Walls. This pretty much goes for Railing Walls as well. I think Chief's Default Fence Wall_Type uses 2x4 Fir Studs. Change that material to a non-framing material (preferably transparent) and the framing problem will go away. I tried it and it did not help. Did you try it. As I said in previous post, giving the fence a ROOM DEFINITION, cleared up the issue.... very strange Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe_Carrick 2364 Posted August 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, dshall said: Did you try it. Not on your plan, but that's the way I have my plan set up so when I create a fence it won't "Frame". Also, it appears you have the Wall Framing Layer turned on in that view - why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe_Carrick 2364 Posted August 30, 2018 FWIW, I just deleted the fence section with the gate and rebuilt it by drag/continue the side yard fence. Then I inserted the gate and it was all fine. Sometimes when something is goofy the best solution is to start over. In this case the fence with the gate was just not behaving the way it should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe_Carrick 2364 Posted August 30, 2018 You might also notice that there is what appears to be an extra tall post at the end of the brick pony wall. It's actually another fence/railing wall which contains some junk - the original stone artifact. Deleting it caused some problems so you can either check it as invisible so it's not seen - or go ahead and recreate the fence and rebuild as in my previous post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
