dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Has anybody noticed that cross section lines do not show in layout? Is there a reason for this? Do a quick test, cut a section thru house, change cross section line layer to red and size 300, send to layout. Do you see heavy red lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneK Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 No red here, did as you described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaehmer Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I was able to get it to say when in the camera dbx checked the "saved" box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 I was able to get it to say when in the camera dbx checked the "saved" box. No JB, send cross section view to layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Cut a section, look at the layer CROSS SECTION LINES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneK Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 no red in layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 If you have to use red make it on the dark almost black side, if you print to grayscale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 no red in layout exactly, why wouldn't we want the option. In fact the layer is not even shown in layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 the thickness of the cross section line is adjusted in the camera/ display section of the camera DBX. My camera's show up fine in the layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I've never noticed whether or not cross section lines can be displayed in layout or not and I'm away from my computer so I couldn't test but I'll take your guys' word for it for now...I'll try to remember and test it later. Anyway, it's a bit of a workaround, but if you need cross section lines displayed, I'm betting you can unlock the layer in plan, group select and cut them, and paste hold position. I'm pretty sure this will turn them to standard CAD. Of course they would no longer be live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 If you have to use red make it on the dark almost black side, if you print to grayscale You are missing the point. I made the layer red and very very heavy to confirm the lines are not seen in layout. I see red heavy lines in section view but not when section view is sent to layout. I just checked with tech and Michael confirmed behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 the thickness of the cross section line is adjusted in the camera/ display section of the camera DBX. My camera's show up fine in the layout Perry, look at Shane's post number 6. That is what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I have a feeling 'Cross Section Lines' have a very unique purpose in Chief. If the 'All Off' layer set is used then just the 'Cross Section Lines' layer is selected, nothing shows. But if your Section Layer Set is chosen, 'Cross Section Lines' will turn on and off with the layer. So they are there but not really 'there' and behave like no other Layer I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justmejerry Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 My understanding is that cross-section lines in section view are the same as the outline in layout view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 exactly, why wouldn't we want the option. In fact the layer is not even shown in layout Your right, I never use red so never saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 In fact the layer is not even shown in layout ..nor is it shown in section if it's the only layer selected. What other layer behaves like that? Why? What are cross section lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 This is nutty, I get the Cross Section Lines as RED in both the Section View and in that View sent to Layout. This only works for "Live Views", not for "Plot Lines" But I can't get the Cross Section Callout to be RED in the Plan - even though I've changed those Layers - but when I send the Plan to Layout the Cross Section Lines in the Layout are RED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneK Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Messing around with "live view" when sending to layout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 This is nutty, I get the Cross Section Lines as RED in both the Section View and in that View sent to Layout. This only works for "Live Views", not for "Plot Lines" But I can't get the Cross Section Callout to be RED in the Plan - even though I've changed those Layers - but when I send the Plan to Layout the Cross Section Lines in the Layout are RED. This is how cameras have always worked. They won't display in color as long as the camera view is open. Save that view and close it and the color will display in plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 This is how cameras have always worked. They won't display in color as long as the camera view is open. Save that view and close it and the color will display in plan. Thanks Michael. So now I get the RED in both Plan and Layout for both. CROSS SECTION CALLOUTS CROSS SECTION LINES Scott, the Key to the Cross Section Lines being in color in the Layout is using a "Live View". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Cross section lines are not really intended to be part of your working documents. They are only added to section views so that dimension lines can locate cut surfaces. They are not permanent and will get regenerated any time the view is regenerated. One could probably make an argument that they should not appear in live views either because this is inconsistent. You can always turn off the layer though. Our long term goal is to make them go away by improving our dimension tools for camera views. From the reference manual: Cross Section Lines Cross Section Lines are created in cross section views to represent any objects split by the cross section line of the camera. They are placed on the “Cross Section Lines” layer, which is locked by default, and they get deleted and replaced whenever the view is redrawn. When a dimension is drawn to locate an object split by a camera’s section line, it actually locates Cross Section Lines. So that dimensions can be retained when Cross Section Lines are regenerated, a Point Marker is automatically created where a dimension meets a Cross Section Line and the dimension locates it instead of the Cross Section Line. See “Point Markers and Dimensions” on page 1059. Cross Section Lines will print when their layer is turned on; however, they are not included when the view is sent to layout. The Point Markers created when dimensions locate Cross Section Lines, however, will both print and display in views sent to layout. See “Layout” on page 1235. The “Cross Section Lines” layer can be unlocked, allowing Cross Section Lines to be be selected and edited. Additional CAD objects can also be placed on this layer when it is unlocked, as well; however, when the view is redrawn, all CAD objects on this layer will be deleted and replaced with a fresh set of Cross Section Lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I always use plot lines for sections/ elevations b/c I print in grayscale so I never saw it. I don't like color in those, it doesn't print well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 What got me started on this I have a client that wants the CROSS SECTION LINES much heavier than everything else. This is the "classic" way of doing cross sections. This is a very nice feature if I can use it in layout. I do not care if they are redrawn, in fact I want them redrawn if something changes. So Dermot, I think I would prefer if you guys keep this in but find a way I can use in layout. The work around is to lock all layers but the cross section line layer, select all cross section lines, copy and put them on their own layer. Not too bad, but still not "live". Another option is to use the "live view" as Joe suggested. I stopped using that option a while back for some reason.... because it did not look as good? Perry, why did you stop using "live view"? Thanks guys and Dermot for helping me out with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can't you just change the roof line thickness in that anno-set / layer-set and anything else you want thicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can't you just change the roof line thickness in that anno-set / layer-set and anything else you want thicker. Maybe, I will look into that, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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