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I think Michael is right.

Try using a second floor and use open below to create the cathedral ceiling. Adjust 2nd. floor walls to get the look you want.

Try taking a back clip view of the troubled area. Then tile both elevation and plan so you can see what happens as you make changes. Don't know what's on the second floor but an invisible wall might be necessary to make the floors (room definitions) work right.Then go to the second floor and try making the adjustments for the first floor. Once doing that, you may need to change the second floor areas too to make it work.

Well actually it can be done using a 3D molding polyline on a vaulted ceiling. I had to do it years ago to duplicate a bathroom I was doing an existing plan for. Yes, it's kinda difficult to do in Chief, but it can be done on a vaulted ceiling. I believe the only problem is that on one side of the room, you need to use a separate polyline...but doable. I asked my brother (a master at installing molding) about a long time ago about doing this and he said that yes it can be done but you have to cope the corners together. He didn't think it could be done using a compound miter saw but he didn't know for sure because he would only do this by coping it. Like I said, this was done in a house I had to model so I knew it could be done. I did this with one molding 3D molding polyline. I did not fine tune the molding polyline.

Bill, I would recommend the Masonry Designer from Acme Brick too. If you use that, I would also create a soldier brick image too so that you'll have both of the same brick.

Thank you. I downloaded DWG TrueView 2017. I imported my DWGs and they look good in that program. I don't know why some people have problems.

Scott, I generally export .dwg files to engineers. I do find that some engineers that use ACAD know how to use the program much better than others. I have some problems with some and some firms tell me that they'll get it to work with no problems. I do have one way that I do it that seems to work the best. As far as .dxf file go, I've never exported one. I do know that I've had problems importing .dxf files form engineers for sometimes they will send me a particular detail they want me to use. When I have the problem with the .dxf file, I ask them to send it in .dwg file format and then I have no problems. I had one person ask for the layout title page. What I did was copy my title page to a plan view, then exported that. Maybe I could have exported it from the layout, don't know. We do have our logo in our title page but that doesn't go to cad format because it's an image file. I need to get a hold of this builder I used to help in California and get the name of a free cad viewing program by Autodesk. It was a huge program file size though. I also thought that it was safer to export my plan views in 2002 cad format but I'm finding that I have better luck with a 2010 to 2012 cad format.

You need to place the macro in your plan or what ever view you're sending to a scale. Your layout should always be set to a 1:1 scale. This is why when you send something to the layout, you have an option of what scale to send it to.

BTW, in our user group meeting last night, I discovered that in X8, this doesn't work for cad blocks (saving to the library on a different layer), only symbols.

Mike, if you're still coming to the meeting tonight, I'll show you how to do this.

I just sent a PM to you.

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Steve, since you haven't received a reply, I'll try to help. It looks like you're using X7 right? In X7, yes, when you create a new symbol, you put it in a category which is linked to Chief's main layer for that category. I see you figured out how to change the cad block. To change the layer the symbol is on in the layer display, just place the symbol in the plan> open it > change the layer it's on. If you need to use that symbol again in that plan, just copy it around. In X8, you can place the symbol in the plan, open it and change the layer it's on. Now you can select that symbol you changed in the plan and save it to your user library. That symbol will maintain the layer you set it on in your user library. So now when you want that symbol that is on that layer, just go to your user library and place it in your plan. Good to go.

Don't block it. Do this in a blank plan and make a symbol of it instead of a block and save that to your library. Once doing this, it will work like you want. BTW, I would save that plan that you made it in so that you can come back at a later date to modify it if you want.

"Are colors toggled on in your layout?" I would check this first.

Alan, there is a problem with mulled windows and schedules. This has been confirmed (see link) but hasn't been fixed yet. This has been a problem even in previous versions. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/5150-schedules-and-mulled-windows/?hl=%2Bmulled+%2Bwindows

Perry & Glenn are correct. Since I am already aware of the segments when working with arches and solids of any kind, I always fix it before I go too far if it's necessary.

Just create a new layer and change the line style for that layer. Put the dimensions you want to display differently on that layer. I know this will work.

Doesn't work that way for me for switches and outlets, but wall lights yes.

BTW, did a test using switches and outlets and it doesn't work the same. If you do it your way, you still have to adjust the origin in the elevations after placing it in plan to the correct place. Your way does work for at least the wall light I used.

Yes that works. You do need to save it to your user library after making adjustments as noted, then sent that back to the plan (from the user library) to make it work easily for rotating with the rotate handle.

I had a feeling this was coming but was hoping you would try it then you would probably find out why. Wall lights, switches, and outlets are made to sit on the wall. To make them go on the side of a cabinet, column, slab or anything else other than a wall, then yes you can place the item in the plan on a wall> open it and make it sit on the floor. Now you can move it where you want, but to make it sit on the side of the cabinet, you need to rotate it. Yes you can do it by opening it and rotate it on its axis in the dbx. but I think my way is better. When you place it directly from the library in the plan, open it and make it sit on the floor, yes you can move it but you can't rotate it using the "rotate handle". If you however copy the item from Chief's library to your user library and in your user library, open the symbol and make it sit on the floor BEFORE you place it in the plan, you can then move it anywhere in the plan and use the "rotate handle" to rotate it. I think this is easier than rotating it on it's axis in the dbx.. Maybe not for some people though. I then move the item to the cabinet in plan view to where it looks right in plan view. I then take an elevation, select the item in the elevation, open it and set its origin to where it looks right in 3D. Now you can show it properly in 2d and 3d. I discussed this a long time ago with Scott on the forum.

Don't block it and save it. If you make a symbol of it, it should work as you want.

When doing as Dennis suggested, you'll have to change the origin to make it look right in plan and 3D. I do this all the time. BTW, I feel it's better to copy the fixture from Chief's library and place it in your user library before putting it into the plan. (there is a reason why I do this)

The engineer sent me a .dwg file that opened great. Problem solved.