tommy1

I learned the hard way many years ago that speed is not necessarily a good thing for doing certain things. That's how mistakes are done and can be costly. A timely manner however is something else. For me, how long it takes varies greatly on what we're doing but I NEVER try to do it too fast just to get out of the house. I spend the time I need to do it accurately. That's just me.

Doing the as-built is one on my main jobs for Katy. I've heard here that many people can do an as-built in a few hours. That's generally not the case for me depending on the remodel. Katy and me meet on the job with the client. Since Katy does the remodel, she spends her time going over what the client wants and I spend my time doing the measurements either of the area to be remodeled or the whole house. I'm generally there much longer than Katy in some cases. Since walls can be out of square, not exactly plumb, studs can be off or not exactly in line with each other, floor off from being level, this can all make a difference in your measurements. This is why when I measure a room in one direction, I measure one end of the room and the other end to check that length. When using a laser, if walls are off as I mentioned, the laser reading from one end of a wall to the other end can vary. If there is a huge difference in the measurements, I let Katy and the client know. I try to keep all my room dimensions all over the house to be with-in an inch or less. You have to check wall thickness for walls to be more accurate and some walls is pretty impossible but you can generally assume that walls behind toilets and some areas may be a little thicker for plumbing. Older houses here in the historic district are much more difficult because a lot of the times you have no idea how people framed things. We see some pretty crazy wall framing and sometimes there were additions done or new walls added to these old homes which have different framing. I also do measure the windows (width and height, floor to top) and their placement on the walls so we know where they are located on the walls. Same for doors. Our as-built plan are very accurate which is why our builders like our work. On a one story, depending on the size, amount of walls and difficulty of the house, I will spend at least 6 hrs. measuring and making notes. Longer for two story or large houses. We generally draw the perimeter of the house based off of the survey, print it and use that for drawing the existing (in pencil). When I go to put it in Chief, if I run into areas where my dimensions don't add up, then I will need to go back and verify and try to find out why. Our clients are generally very grateful that we take the time to get it right. I feel that the as-built is one of the most important part of the remodel, for if you don't have that right or very close, then the remodel will be off as well which could lead to problems for the builder and engineer. If you hire out someone to do you as-built, be sure you use someone who really tries to make it right. Katy never worries about my as-built plan. BTW, we will never do a remodel unless Katy has me do the as-built. We also show all existing electrical and a/c vents in the areas to be remodeled. I place them as close as possible and take pictures for referencing.

Thanks Michael, that works.

BTW, I see that you have a different material for the center. I reworked my symbol so this can be done if interested. I generally try to save the file I make my symbols with so that I can easily edit it later if needed.

Rob, I get that error message when ever I open X8 to look at it then close it and try to open X7 which I'm mainly using right now. When I open X7, I get that message and it won't let me open so I go to the task manager and close X7 then Right click on X7 icon and run as administrator. Once you open X8 and close it, it's faster to just right click on X7 and open as administrator so you don't get that error. I didn't have this problem until I downloaded X8. BTW, I do have X7 set up to run as administrator.

Yea Joe. I realize that but just really didn't like the way the cabinet doors look which is why I made my own. BTW, not hard to make as you probably know.

I have a symbol that I made just for doing this back with X1. Cabinet doors can be used but I feel my symbol looks more like it. If interested in it, send me an email at my email address below. BTW, it can be stretched in both directions.

This is what I did when I got my laptop new and solved all my problems I was have with elevations and sending them to layout.

I'm not sure if this will help or help with finding an answer, but once rich text is placed, as far as I know, to change the style or anything else concerning the text of rich text, you have to open the rich text box , select the text (or highlight the text), then change it. You don't have to do this using standard text. All text from a DWG will always be rich text (at least in my experience with DWGs).

I had the baseboards like that show up for me in a similar situation. I just removed the baseboards and drew them manually around the room using a molding polyline. Maybe took a little longer but worked.

No I don't have Home Pro but I just need to look at the program and see what the limitations are. I know some of them.

Where are you located in Houston?

Perry, if your talking to me, I just don't ever use a Beta Version for actual work. It's a personal policy.

I posted this thread before I downloaded this version in hopes of people posting "known bugs". I was afraid that many people would post things that are actually user errors and not bugs which was done. When you combine the posts that are user errors and the replies for those, then there are a lot of un-necessary post here (for what I intended). I wish I could delete any post that is user error but I can't. I still haven't used this version for an actual plan for a client but plan to next week or this weekend because the final release seemed to fix the major problem I was concerned about. All new bugs I've seen since the release can be dealt with IMO.

Harry, I sent you 7 emails with a lot of libraries I had. I have more.

The only way I would do it is to rename the revised PDF then send that to the layout.

Harry, I'll look on my backup and see what I have. I have an old email for you...don't know if it changed. harrythebuilder@yahoo.com

Use the version they're using.

The room divider turns into an invisible Interior 4 wall when you change the structural properties on either side of the room divider. So just place an interior 4 wall and make it invisible.

Also, try moving the angle of the camera a little and see if that helps.

This just happened to me after opening X8 first. Very annoying.

Thank you for the heads up on this function change.

I see this too every now and then. Go to the Windows Task Manager and shut down the program. Sometimes it will still do it but it helps me every time to then start the program and Run As Administrator.

Small request. If your problem was due to user error, then could you please remove your post? Just trying to get people to place bugs with the program for V8. Thanks,

If anyone knows of any known bugs in X8, would it be possible to list them? I'm fixing to go ahead and download X8. TIA,