builtright3 107 Posted May 14, 2016 Using CA version 8, When I select a room to calculate the materials the correct amount of drywall does not come up. It doesn't appear to be calculation the walls (only the ceiling). Am I missing something here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_NY61 94 Posted May 14, 2016 I never tried doing material calculation, but now that you mentioned, I get the same thing... Just the ceiling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justmejerry 45 Posted May 14, 2016 I have never done just a room for materials, but i get same results. I think it could be because walls can be more than just for that room, so probably excluded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
builtright3 107 Posted May 14, 2016 I thought it might get fixed with Chief 8. Its not like we haven't had this discussion before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRAWZILLA 779 Posted May 14, 2016 Did anyone turn it in to tech support? Have to do that for a fix to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidJPotter 315 Posted May 14, 2016 Try a room Materials poly-line that includes the interior sheet rock. There is always more than one way to get data and results. It is explained in the Reference Manual, what is what, take a look. DJP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2458 Posted May 14, 2016 In offering a very good solution (thank you David) I think David may have also inadvertently pointed out the problem. It looks like the Calculate Materials For Room tool is simply using the room polyline as a Materials List Polyline and that default polyline only extends to the interior surface of drywall. If you want the drywall from the room's walls included in a material list then it must be completely enveloped by the polyline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justmejerry 45 Posted May 14, 2016 Michael I just tested this out with "material list polyline" and it only gives ceiling wall board. Polyline covers the wall surface drywall completley. You must include the main framing layer in polyline for it to give you wallboard for walls. Is this result you get? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2458 Posted May 14, 2016 Michael I just tested this out with "material list polyline" and it only gives ceiling wall board. Polyline covers the wall surface drywall completley. You must include the main framing layer in polyline for it to give you wallboard for walls. Is this result you get? Didn't realize it before but I guess you're partially correct. I just tested again and it looks like you have to be at least past the midpoint of the wall to get the drywall to calculate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glennw 985 Posted May 16, 2016 "A Materials List calculated from a room is created for only the contents of that room: wall materials are not included." From the manual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbuttery 192 Posted May 16, 2016 Hmmm, there should be an option to include the walls when doing a single room that would make common sense .... Lew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2458 Posted May 16, 2016 Hmmm, there should be an option to include the walls when doing a single room that would make common sense .... Lew There IS a way... 1. Make Room Polyline 2. Hold down C (concentric edit mode) and resize the polyline using one of the corner edit handles so that it is past the midpoint of all the walls. 3. Convert Polyline to Materials List Polyline 4. Click Calculate Materials List Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
builtright3 107 Posted May 16, 2016 I realize that there are work-a-rounds but you should be able to select a room and get a complete materials list otherwise whats the point in even having a rooms materials list? I can calculate the materials list on paper faster than doing poly lines or other creative Ideas. I guess I need to post another suggestion in the suggestion box but I thought we had all covered this before in a earlier conversation and I assumed that CA would come up with a fix in X8 but they did not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2458 Posted May 16, 2016 ...I can calculate the materials list on paper faster than doing poly lines or other creative Ideas... I understand using a little hyperbole to prove a point, but this statement is simply not true in any sense of the word. Using the steps I mentioned in my previous post I can create a material list for any given room in 15 seconds or less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbuttery 192 Posted May 16, 2016 There IS a way... Michael: WAY too many steps a preference or default setting would be preferred ... Lew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaskan_Son 2458 Posted May 16, 2016 There IS a way... Michael: WAY too many steps a preference or default setting would be preferred ... Lew A preference or default would be nice, but saying it's way too many steps is just sillyness. It takes 3 extra clicks and a few seconds...big deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbuttery 192 Posted May 16, 2016 Michael: those steps may be fine for occasional use but to do over and over again if that is what is needed all those extra clicks start to add up secondly - if this is a task that isn't done for a long time then remembering those steps can be an issue much better to have a setting or have the material list generator ask "do you want to include the walls" much more "user-friendly" Lew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HamlinBC 29 Posted May 16, 2016 I don't know...I guess I'm with Michael on this one. Seems like not much more steps...and probably more accurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
builtright3 107 Posted May 16, 2016 Michael, I understand what you are says but the silliness seems mostly to be in the part of the programing team. I would like a direct question answered but I'm not getting it. Can what I'm asking for be done? Can CA make it so when I select a room (without using poly lines) that it will generate all the materials for that room? Or is it to complicated? It tells you the ceiling drywall, why not the walls? Also what about the electrical? It calculates the plumbing, doors, windows and everything else. Doesn't that seem silly to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smorris 5 Posted May 17, 2016 This may also be covered in the manual, but.......the Materials List will not deduct openings, from the moldings quantity, if they are auto generated through the Room Spec. dbx. I suppose they do this to take care of any extra molding, that may be needed. However, I prefer an exact count and to figure my own percentage of waste, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_NY61 94 Posted May 17, 2016 "Hint" Sheetrock Calculation- Macro Of the Month for it's club members! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lbuttery 192 Posted May 17, 2016 macros should be used for efficiency not as band-aids for deficiencies in features user-friendliness versus "do you wanna know a secret" Lew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
builtright3 107 Posted May 18, 2016 This may also be covered in the manual, but.......the Materials List will not deduct openings, from the moldings quantity, if they are auto generated through the Room Spec. dbx. I suppose they do this to take care of any extra molding, that may be needed. However, I prefer an exact count and to figure my own percentage of waste, etc. Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keysersoze 1 Posted August 24, 2016 I was trying to look for drywall on the material list and found this post. Are we saying that ca will not include board for walls? if so this is totally ridiculous. Am i missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
