dshall Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Does anybody have any comments in regards to the new 2021 22" IMAC's? If the new model 2021 came in the 27" I would be down there this afternoon buying one. CA.... any comments? thanks guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneDavis Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 What's this? https://www.apple.com/imac-24/ Will it run Chief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, GeneDavis said: What's this? https://www.apple.com/imac-24/ Will it run Chief? It should run chief, apparently the processor , an M1 chip is super fast in lieu of intel I9, the downsides that I can see: - it is a 22" monitor instead of a 27" - the machine is limited to 16gb of UNIFIED MEMORY (whatever that is) compared to 128gb memory. I am not sure what this all means 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, dshall said: any comments? Archicad users have some comparisons with the M1 chip to see how it compares, if you're willing to do some searching on their forums or on Youtube. The consensus from what I've seen is not anything to write home about. Upgrade if you're due but don't expect anything remarkable. Chief was predominately cpu driven, but now with X13 that might not be the case anymore. If you're looking for a true bump in performance I think you'll have to consider the dark side... Sorry that I don't have any real world experience, just trying to point you in the right direction to a group who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenGreene Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 56 minutes ago, dshall said: It should run chief, apparently the processor , an M1 chip is super fast in lieu of intel I9, the downsides that I can see: - it is a 22" monitor instead of a 27" - the machine is limited to 16gb of UNIFIED MEMORY (whatever that is) compared to 128gb memory. I am not sure what this all means i'm pretty sure M1 is NOT supported by X13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I would wait for the new pro-series I-Macs. The rumor's are M2 chip that has way better graphics performance and they're saying it will have a 30-32" screen. The current 24" I-Mac is more for home/personal use than a workstation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Save your money...the current iMac that Apple has released is a toy. The pro model is not due to be released until maybe October. Dammit.... As far as my research goes...Apple silicon M1 or whatever the next version is (M1X or M2) will be incredibly fast and efficient. The fan in the new iMAC may never come on. I'm not an expert...but I believe Apple will be placing their graphics GPU on the chip. Chief does not support the M1 chipset. Apple isn't helping...the new super duper iMAC is long overdue. I'm going to probably purchase an intel based iMAC now...and trade it in next year if Chief gets onboard and X14 supports Apple GPU...whatever it turns out to be. Quite frustrating to be an Apple user right now...and using Chief to make a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenGreene Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, SNestor said: Save your money...the current iMac that Apple has released is a toy. The pro model is not due to be released until maybe October. Dammit.... As far as my research goes...Apple silicon M1 or whatever the next version is (M1X or M2) will be incredibly fast and efficient. The fan in the new iMAC may never come on. I'm not an expert...but I believe Apple will be placing their graphics GPU on the chip. Chief does not support the M1 chipset. Apple isn't helping...the new super duper iMAC is long overdue. I'm going to probably purchase an intel based iMAC now...and trade it in next year if Chief gets onboard and X14 supports Apple GPU...whatever it turns out to be. Quite frustrating to be an Apple user right now...and using Chief to make a living. yes.... and i just recently renewed my SSA. now i wish i had saved my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 WOW. the M-1 isn't supported, that is not good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 4:01 PM, dshall said: WOW. the M-1 isn't supported, that is not good. Lots of people have reported running X12 fine on the M1 No idea what will happen with X13 as it hasn't been released yet .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 7:19 AM, dshall said: Does anybody have any comments in regards to the new 2021 22" IMAC's? If the new model 2021 came in the 27" I would be down there this afternoon buying one. CA.... any comments? thanks guys. YES, DON'T EVER GET ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 1:01 PM, dshall said: WOW. the M-1 isn't supported, that is not good. Is X-12/X-13 not supported on the M-1, or is Real Time RayTracing not supported on the M-1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: Is X-12/X-13 not supported on the M-1, or is Real Time RayTracing not supported on the M-1? I don't believe it will run X13...Chief is not supporting the M1 at this time. However, I can't remember ever seeing a categorical statement from Chief about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, SNestor said: I don't believe it will run X13...Chief is not supporting the M1 at this time. However, I can't remember ever seeing a categorical statement from Chief about this... Is Chief not supporting the M1? Or is the M1 not supporting Chief? Either way it does not sound correct that a new Mac would not run Chief X13, but they did definitively say that RTRT would not be supported by the Mac platform as the Mac graphic standards don't mesh for RTRT.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: Is Chief not supporting the M1? Or is the M1 not supporting Chief? Either way it does not sound correct that a new Mac would not run Chief X13, but they did definitively say that RTRT would not be supported by the Mac platform as the Mac graphic standards don't mesh for RTRT.. Apple is not using a dedicated graphics card with their new ARM based processors. Graphics will be mounted right on the M1 chip. I don't believe Chief can use the Apple graphics method...and at the same time use the RTX video cards that work basically with Intel X86 architecture. I'm guessing...but, I think Apple is changing the game and causing this issue. Chief had to pick a one path over the other. I'm not an expert on this subject so take everything I'm saying as pure conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, SNestor said: Apple is not using a dedicated graphics card with their new ARM based processors. Graphics will be mounted right on the M1 chip. I don't believe Chief can use the Apple graphics method...and at the same time use the RTX video cards that work basically with Intel X86 architecture. I'm guessing...but, I think Apple is changing the game and causing this issue. Chief had to pick a one path over the other. I'm not an expert on this subject so take everything I'm saying as pure conjecture. No expert on the subject either but do remember the choice that Chief made re: RTRT which I think was no real choice as for some reason, and likely the one you mention above re: graphics chips versus cards, Macs would not play with RTRT. But not run X13 at all? I think in that same dissertation it was said that every other current feature of X13 would be supported, just not RTRT. We'll know soon enough but if I had a new Mac M1 or was considering buying one I'd make double sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Here's the hardware requirements for X13. No mention that X13 will not run on M1 Mac and I think we should be very cautious in stating/suggesting similar. Hmmm...It does state a Mac Pro an no mention of an IMAC. Interesting. EDIT: I was only reading the bottom green part of the required spec's. Footnote 1 clearly states that "Mac M1 processors are not supported." Sorry for any confusion. https://www.chiefarchitect.com/products/sysreq.html#:~:text=Real‑time ray tracing%2C coming,RX 6000 series graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 7:19 AM, dshall said: Does anybody have any comments in regards to the new 2021 22" IMAC's? If the new model 2021 came in the 27" I would be down there this afternoon buying one. CA.... any comments? thanks guys. Hey Scott, it looks like the IMAC are using an M1 chip and Chief clearly states in that link above that the M1 chip is not supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 38 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: Hey Scott, it looks like the IMAC are using an M1 chip and Chief clearly states in that link above that the M1 chip is not supported. Yeah, I am hoping CA fixes this sooner than later..... at least by the time the M2 chips come out with a larger monitor. The 22" IMAC monitor with the M1 chip was probably not going to cut it for me anyway. Hard to go from a 27" screen to a 22" screen.' I put my money on CA fixing this thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Scott ,I'm running 2- 43" 4k monitors on my 3060 card, Windows is good to go. I think Chief is still working on getting Apple in line to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, DRAWZILLA said: Scott ,I'm running 2- 43" 4k monitors on my 3060 card, Windows is good to go. I think Chief is still working on getting Apple in line to work. Thanks Perry, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Pretty sure the m1 architecture will run anything under Rosetta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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