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All...   I have a roofing headache... ;)  

Anyway...   the auto-roof function creates the most logical roof design.  My client (The Builder) says that option is too expensive for the budget so this is as close as I can come to a solution without further assistance...   this needs a cricket... and I simply have no idea how to create one in CA.  Any Help?

 

Is there a tutorial for this?

 

Kind Regards,

 

Stu

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Cheap, quick and pretty ugly solution. Have you explored turning the gable in the other direction?

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Cheap, quick and pretty ugly solution. Have you explored turning the gable in the other direction?

yes... but the client wants the bedroom below vaulted north to south as drawn....

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Cheap, quick and pretty ugly solution. Have you explored turning the gable in the other direction?

 

I would personally do this instead...

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I would personally do this instead...

This works...   still don't know how to do the cricket.

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The crickets are just roof planes. Place them and move them to the desired locations and heights.

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This works...   still don't know how to do the cricket.

well maybe I spoke too soon...   I'm not understanding this fix...   when i extend the slope down as a single pitch as labeled, the edge dos not line up like your image.   can you show me the edited file?

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well maybe I spoke too soon...   I'm not understanding this fix...   when i extend the slope down as a single pitch as labeled, the edge dos not line up like your image.   can you show me the edited file?

 

It might not actually work.  I was just throwing an idea out there.  Didn't actually try modelling it. Maybe that's why Alan did what he did.  Maybe it was ME who spoke too soon.

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Micheal, the roof pitch you are suggesting to extend has the plate about 10' from where you want it to be.

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Micheal, the roof pitch you are suggesting to extend has the plate about 10' from where you want it to be.

Gotcha. Sorry about that then. I just pretty quickly glanced at your drawing and then at the plan. I guess I didn't fully grasp what I was looking at. My bad.

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Sometimes forcing something like this to work is the wrong way to deal with a problem.  Consider what you can do in your design to make this less problematic. 

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The crickets are just roof planes. Place them and move them to the desired locations and heights.

Yeah don't make it so difficult. Create a roof plane where you'd like the cricket to be and set the pitch to 1/2":12. They almost never end up beinghe right height etc but just move the plane up/down using the roof dbx or the transform replicate tool. Break the main roofs and join them to the cricket. Some times they are a necessary evil but we do them all the time.

 

They might be ugly, but only from Google Earth.

 

 

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cool idea... but it would make for an interupted vault in the bedroom.

 

Only if the vault needs to extend over the bath too.

 

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Only if the vault needs to extend over the bath too.

 

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I will try this approach ...    I suck at custom roofs...   practice - practice...

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You can use the auto roof tools to do much of the work, but you should really be able to do a simple roof like this manually. When I first started, I drew roof after roof for practice. This shows the existing structure in blue and the new in green, all auto generated. You would need to make a few adjustments to the auto build, then connect and fill in the missing roof planes. post-1284-0-54930800-1470698592_thumb.jpg Turn off the roof over the new, build roof over existing, cut (copy and delete) roof planes. Turn off roof over existing and on over new. Build roof. Paste hold position to put the existing roof back.

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You can use the auto roof tools to do much of the work, but you should really be able to do a simple roof like this manually. When I first started, I drew roof after roof for practice. This shows the existing structure in blue and the new in green, all auto generated. You would need to make a few adjustments to the auto build, then connect and fill in the missing roof planes. attachicon.gifsa 4.jpg Turn off the roof over the new, build roof over existing, cut (copy and delete) roof planes. Turn off roof over existing and on over new. Build roof. Paste hold position to put the existing roof back.

I have to learn the on / off feature... sounds much easier.  I'll look for a tutorial on that...  Been doing it all manually...   [sigh]

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Glenn:

 

just curious, with one or two clicks

 

or by "fussing" with roof planes ???

 

Lew

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Lew,

 

No clicks or fussing with roof planes.

Just auto build the roof - the cricket is built as part of the auto roof building.

No settings to make, nothing to configure - it just happens.

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Glenn:

 

ok, then why this posting ???

 

remember I don't do roofs

 

anything beyond auto and I send the plan to my partner/friend

 

Lew

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Glenn:

 

ok, then why this posting ???

 

remember I don't do roofs

 

anything beyond auto and I send the plan to my partner/friend

 

Lew

 

For starters, its because what I believe the OP was really asking for was a complex SADDLE, not a cricket...

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...and I'm not too sure Softplan's saddle tool would have worked in this situation either.  I will admit that the saddle tool might be a good addition to Chief though. 

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