MarkMc

Fourth chief beta, never had this much, especially in the public portion.

When backing up entire plan to send in ran across 4 missing textures. They were all for plants. No plants in plan. I had at one point placed a library dining room, guessing that had some but it is deleted. I tried purge materials but still got the message looking for replacements. Could that cause problems? How the heck do you get rid of the offending object?

I'll second that. Last time I called support(4,5 yrs) was told they aren't there for training. I don't remember what I'd called for. I rarely call any program's support, ever, But ok I get it, I don't call, my SSA is for upgrades. There's a total of 7 tickets in my support center, the solutions for program problems were gotten here. I read this a couple of times a day just so I know what I don't know. -bless all of you.

I understand, done enough beta over the years, I'll send it but from past experience this one won't be much help, I can't tell them anything worthwhile. Under the gun on it as it is, just want to get it out the door.

Is this my imagination? I can't figure out what I have different here and why this is going on. In elevation or back clipped section-- In one plan I can snap a dimension to a custom counter, in the other I can't. both X6. I first ran across this in X7. Was working on the latest version of the "No snap" file. I went back to X6 to see if it worked there. When I went back to X6 the first file I checked is the one that works. (Dims work) So then figured I ought to check an older version of the other (No snap) file and that also doesn't snap in X6. I'm guessing it's something I have different in the defaults or somewhere but going crazy trying to find it. Would appreciate a set of fresh eyes- I don't need this often but do for this particular project. Right now I have a work around by deleting the custom counter because it will snap to an auto generated one.

Wondering if anyone else is seeing issues? Sluggish in general , undo in particular, changing tabs, some dbx. I'm also getting more crashes than ever. I rarely get any, now several a day. At first I thought it was a symbol I created, figured I mucked something up. Got rid of that. Still crashing and seams to be random, doubt they are consistently reproducible. I'm not sure it's anything in particular other than the program wants a break. i.e. copy a layer set, change one line style. Apply that to elevation and crash. Restart, do the same thing and it works fine. I've had 4 or 5 today alone. Mostly working on one plan that was started in X6 but most work was done in 7. But I've had it on several other smaller projects (also started in X6) Between that and a few new quirks I'm thinking I'm going back to X6 except for this specific project. I still have suitable files for all the rest in X6.

Little quirk I ran into making a hood symbol using: a cabinet, pline solids and molding pline. Sometimes when making a symbol I put in walls to simplify positioning everything. Not all objects classes treat the height off the floor the same. So if "auto adjust" is clicked , or any molding pline is used-they will move vertically when you delete the walls (which I do before finalizing the symbol) but the cabinet doesn't.

You must be a WM dealer.

Only works for the one place that I can put fillers on a single cabinet. I might be able to use the new split cabinet tool but I'm not going there. I tested that on other parts of this job and do not like it. Have had an easier to use version of that available in 2020 for years and rarely use it. I'll bet the marketing boys love it though. Thanks again Joe. I'm almost done with all this now anyway...now the design committee will change it all again.

No that isn't it. When those work they are the same depth as the door- a fluted filler attaches to the cabinet box at the stile as in the pic. Also, as in your picture it alters the other side of the cabinet. I've tried making really shallow ones for fluted clipped corners in the past but they don't work either. (Right now none I try are showing at all but not worrying about that- Just about never use the accessory options since it never does what I need.) Thanks for trying, will just tough it out. Too bad.thought I finally had a fix for this- there are a number of variations where this comes up and have had a run of them in the last year. The good news is that I have a couple of special fluted symbols I didn't have, thanks to your boolean operations

Re uploaded, not sure why it was zero bytes.

Sometimes they put barbed wire outside just in case the natives get restless.

Spoke too soon. Flutes don't show up until the size is too large to be useful. Tried a few different setttings, planes, reveals. I can't get it. Fluted door.zip

Great idea Joe. Just tried a 2" cabinet with 0" reveals, thought I used to get 1/16" reveal no matter what but it worked. I'd given up and made the first set in the hopes of few changes. Now just have to bring them in as doors, your a life saver, thanks again.

I'm not just being prissy about the size Joe. The plan has a dozen of these in 3 sizes, client wants to see options so the sizes are subject to change. It is also being done in two cabinet lines- one with 4" toe the other with 4-1/2". When done as mill work it is possible to resize cabinets so they overlap the fluted object leading to size mistakes which is why I embarked on this.

Exactly all dimensions are fixed and no toe kick height. I'd tried 3ds out and in a few times before posting. One of the ones I brought in causes error messages in x7 when moved, so deleted that and brought it in as millwork without a problem. That one was 3/4" deep, made from solids, I needed a 2" with different flutes than what is available. I was hoping that there would be an option for "filler" and that might give me what I need. This is one of those jobs I miss 2020- lot of flutes, lot of integrated end panels- at least it doesn't have clipped corners.

All the fluted "fillers" I can find are pilasters, category and layer millwork. I'd like: -to have a standard fluted filler (actually a few) just as I would order- 3/4" thick to go between cabinets. -it to have a countertop. -control over the toe kick height and depth so I can also use fluted extended stiles with flutes. -it to be dealt with as a cabinet by locate objects in dimensions. In a perfect world I'd also like to find an easy way to flute the face of a clipped corner without adding dimensions to it. In the past I have tried making a very thin filler to use as a pilaster under accessories- works so so but throws of dimensions. On a side note- I just noticed that the specify origin option is gone from symbol import.

I'm trying to find a way to have more manageable fluted fillers. I find millwork difficult-doesn't like to be selected and doesn't generate a counter.

Is there a way to import, or convert, or add to library- as a cabinet filler? I'm running into a wall.

I'm sort of a perennial newbie. While I always draw some or all of a building I don’t' typically have to deal with a lot of tools or issues that other folks do-that is until I have to deal with them. Not being as sharp as I once was, if I don't use a tool or option often enough I don't remember all the details. Couple that with the gotchas, ha-ha's, is it me?,work-arounds, and undocumented “features” if I have to do something outside my norm (cabinets) it can be like just learning the program anew. I use help and the manual constantly. Chief's help tools DO NOT document ha-ha's, gotchas or work-arounds. They don't tell you what doesn't work (as expected). If you run into one of those this is the place to find the answer. I read this forum daily, even lots of things I don't need to know. That way I know if a problem exists and has been addressed then it is easier to find when it comes time to search because I suddenly do need to know. It occasionally helps avoid endless redoing, slamming head into wall, "is it me?" Chiefs videos are good if I have a lot of time or want to learn something new (or again). But finding how to solve a particular problem somewhere within one or what does NOT work not so much. Th videos being a useful marketing too aren't going to be a place they want to show problems. Scott's videos OTOH are often about a gotcha and even if they aren't the way he attacks a problem they come up and always yield a nugget. Might help: -a categorized list of work-arounds in a sticky (if I knew more and had some spare time...). I started to put one together for kitchens last year when I was training someone. -the ability to mark individual comments something like they do in the idiot books: watch out, gotcha, tip, work-around...like that. Could be done with tags but would be really handy if they were on a specific comment instead of an entire thread. I look for the "solved" icon all the time, "hot" not so much (may just mean a good off topic bit of fun) Origin of “ha-ha”: a local mountain biking spot has this little hill with a twist in the trail. It looks easy and fun. Local lore has it that no one has ever successfully made it up. When a new guy comes along for a ride the group let's him take the lead at that stretch. The newbie attacks that stretch with gusto, but....crash, burn, ha-ha. Sometimes I wonder if some programmer is laughing his tail off somewhere.

Just discovered something by accident related to this. I have several drawer bases that had a separate drawer specified from the library for the lower drawers-default drawer is set to slab. If I drag a drawer symbol from the library onto one of these cabinets in 3d view-all (and only) the drawers that were specified as a different style than the default changed, the top row stayed as the default drawer. Very handy.I have no idea if this is new. Finding it was accidental- had to switch a plan from inset to full overlay and found a problem the drawer symbol I was using. Discovered this "feature" when trying to figure that out. Also noticed something I never did before- I can group select wall cabinets only, or base cabients only- however if I click the full height cabinet and group select it picks all the cabinets not just the talls.

Take the manufacturer's door, add glass and put in your user library.

To send entire plan use "back up entire plan" to an empty folder- zip and send.

Which means that if you had to use a special doorstyle for anything- like framed lower drawers when top row is a slab- you have to change each individually. Also it will not affect the type of overlay- IOW you can't get it to go from frameless to framed or to inset.

At first I misread your post thinking you just wanted a full half circle front- went to post that then reread-anyway since I'd already made one that way I went back to it and made the back "same as front" so it is possible in Chief. But what Joe said-few if any would build it, even worse to install, certainly would want to pay for it.