MarkMc

Did you change the wall type to "demoliton"? they show that way in 3d

IF room baseboard is taller than the toe kicks then use a seperate molding line to add the "Shoe" , if the cabinets are already in place "make room molding pline" doesn't behave nicely.

Graham- I understand what is being attempted. The first plan I posted allows you to change out the door to any door, create a symbol from that and use it. The problem with that one is creating combined cabinets since the door was full overlay. Here is a "kit" library. There is a single drawer, a single door, and a double door. I included each as both a symbol and as an arch block (the kit part). For reference I stuck a couple of cabinets in it. To use these symbols I set the cabinet as traditional overlay with a ZERO overlap. I set the Y access of the symbol at 13/16. That recesses it into the cabinet I've had to do this with lipped doors. (Be a good idea to open the symbols to check sizing and such.) To change door style you will have to create a new symbol but this is a kit. Just select whichever of the provided block types you need (single door, double door, drawer) drop into a new plan, explode, open the door to get dimensions and height off the floor (I'm not very consistant when creating doors Then replace the door from library with the door of your choice- change the dimensions to match the old door, make a symbol, add to library. Good to go. These will resize with cabinets (as would the first ones I posted) But they will also work with different configurations and combined cabinets (you can use the new split face tool) The downside is hardware. The drawer has to be a "false drawer" or the drawer box show through. Chief doesn't put hardware on false drawers. IF the double door symbol is used as a door you get one piece of hardware, If it is used as a door panel you get none.

Used a different "door kit plan"(not sure what I was doing with the last one), made up two door styles with drawers. A single and a double. 3 cabinets slammed together as if combined-Looks fine in render but in some cases hardware has to be added manually- needs clean up in elevation and vector but then I don't need this for ordering- just spec what I want. Would need a couple of configs (guess I'm half way there) and only would do this under special circumstances. I've only ever had one person even mention beads in render.

No Gene, none in mfg catalogs. Here is one I'd fooled around with not long ago. I only got as far as a full height door, I either got busy or the immediate need faded. I set it up so to use as a full overlay with a zero reveal. The plan has the parts I used to make the symbol on the left. Wanted to be able to change the door style per job. Test cabinets are on the right. Molding profile is in between. A little more work would allow for alternated face configurations.

Very nice, thanks.

The other day Scott Harris told me this doesn't happen in the technical illustration view and it doesn't. Suits the purpose for me in most cases, just have to make it a bit less ugly. He suggested looking at the Fire and Ice sample I think on the CA website. I'm gonna play with that. Just thought I 'd pass it on.

Last time Lew mentioned the projectors I looked into them, certainly small enough, really interesting. I don't want to lug a screen though. Maybe if it was one presentation to sell a job but over half my meetings are at clients homes. usually at the dining room table. I need room for drawings and samples. I bring a 14.5" monitor DisplayLink Monitor, powered by USB, fits my laptop bag, light, fast and easy. I mirror my display,clients are happy with that. I bring along an extra HDMI cable to connect to TV but that is rarely used.

The only options listed there are the NVidia card- I don't think the intel card has any CUDA cores. I did go and change the my global setting which was for max performance, only use the NVIDIA card to automatic, then added a couple of programs I run often that are less important marking them to use the Intel card. Maybe lighten the load on the video. Will see if that changes anything. FWIW the NVIDIA setting I showed for X7 are an exact replication of what I have had for X6. Nothing new on the machine, nothing changed. I did go through updates and assorted cleaning after the first bunch of crashes in the public beta. The cleaning was negligible since I keep things tidy. Wish I could give them something that could be reproduced with regularity. It is almost as if the first time I grab an home built or imnported symbol of any complexity it crashes- especially hoods. After the one fall it is fine. Even happened on a new X7 mantle hood I made from a dwg. Go figure.

Jon, yup

I've gotten that several times. Chief says it's using the NVidia card, and the I have the Nvidia control panel set to run Chief.

Guess it depends on why you want to see em? I could live with either, I only want to see shelves if they are supposed to show. . The whole thing is now just a minor annoyance to me since I know how to get around it. I'm surprised that you didn't run into it sooner (and that some have never seen it). I ran into it very quickly after beginning to use the program. My clients have me swinging the camera all over, often in vector so the problem shows up quickly. I think it could be more of a problem to someone (I guess a kitchen person) evaluating the program especially coming from 2020 or PK, who would not know what it was or that it could be fixed. OTOH for those times that I am ordering extra shelves I'd love to be able to get into the schedule-easily.

I'd like it fixed so that a "full" shelf reflected real life- sits 1/4 to 1/2" back from the face frame. Then it won't show. Problem with a toggle is it would also toggle open shelf and glass front cabinets. But I'd live with it if it made ya happy Dennis I could always adjust the depths as I do now.

You have to make a custom door symbol. Can be from scratch or... If there is a door you want to change you can drag it onto a blank plan resize the depth to what you want and convert it to a new symbol. You have to make a new symbol as just adding to the library doesn't hold your changes.

Dermot, I'd sent two plans in from the beta release but errors can't be reproduced. Have gotten 3 assertion errors on new plans, each time selecting custom hood symbols, 2 made in 6, one in 7. I'll contact them again when I'm out from under. But I can't reproduce the crash myself. I have eliminated most possible software conflict possibilities.

I do have one (Canadian) brand the lists depth to the door in the catalog-but they also spec both. Those have 23-1/2" deep boxes which is quirky. Every other brand I've ever used is ordered by box depth. All the installers I know work from box depth. Soo.. ...for drawings purposes I dimension to boxes and note that. For that brand I do the same, and note it on the plans. They have an ordering program which solves any issues. For aisle clearances I dimension counter to counter and note it as such. If I felt I had to dimension to face doors for some reason I'd likely place a dashed line at that distance from the wall, maybe on a separate locked layer, and snap to that. That way the cabinets will behave properly. Side panels OTOH are another story- for overlay panels I always place loose doors for that (or drawer and door blocked). I want to see them in plan to avoid overlapping casings, missing them entirely or burying them.

None on closing, only one an a new X7 plan while pasting in a hood symbol from an X6 plan, 3 other new plans fine, numerous with some X6 plans brought in. New one almost- I just tried editing group selected cabinets in an X6 plan a couple of times. Lagged a lot and it looked like it was thinking about it so I backed out of that. Overall ok, laggy at times.

I've had a few issues with plans done in X6 but mostly annoyances: two plans with some crashes (cause unknown-varied), some serious lag trying to edit group selected cabinets in an X6 plan. I didn't lose any work and did not have to revert (though at one point I was thinking of it in the public beta). I just open em and do a "save as", add a 7 to the name so I know. I'm now on 7 entirely-good so far on 3 projects all full buildings but still just interior work.

Doug, it was likely you who told me it was Z fighting- back on the old forum, likely in X4. I would say it is not as prevalent as it once was (but then again I've had my default shelves set back to something closer to what is built IRL for a long time now). I would say that framed/frameless does not matter, and the door panel may but no door style is immune. Here is a "inset with raised panel", X6 plan opened in 7 and "Full overlay, framed, recessed panel (1/4" panel set 1/4" from the back of the door) plan started in X6 finished in 7. In both cases it is possible to show shelves after moving the camera around. Once in a while it happens when first opening a view but more commonly after moving the camera around. What is interesting is that I can move a camera (away) and the shelves show BUT then go and place a new camera in the same vicinity, appr. same angle but in the new view they do not show? Sometimes, but rarely, I need to show a specific view for detail and have to eliminate shelves completely. It depends on the view- note that it is possible for shelves to show through the sides of a cabinet in certain cases. David- I've had this across 3 separate computers over the years, 2 still in use, all with different video cards. (but all with similar monitors?) I'm wondering about camera settings? Mine are attached and I have not messed with them in a very long time. They may have been changed some years ago? IF they were it was because of this specific issue and would have been based on advice here on the forum. Do these look like yours? I attached a plan with 2 saved cameras. Do you not get any shelves showing on your system?

I see it all the time in vector views with OOB settings, been since I've used CA (X3). Once someone told me it was Z fighting? As camera angle changes some will go away, sometimes all of them. I tried toggle shelves once upon a time, did nothing so started to change the defaults to eliminate it.

I think the toggle shelves is for loose shelves placed in the plan, not for shelves in the cabinets. I set the defaults for the shelves shallower to prevent them showing through.

I have no trouble with the cabinets or the counter- only problem is the wall. I'd prefer to draw it as such for the final documents- for this part I have to specify the framing. If I have to go to psolids and cad and manually add framing with cad then I know how to do that.

Not sure if that is the best title. Pretty sure there is a work around for this but can't remember it or find it. I have a half (wall with cabinet door panels on one side) that has to butt up to an full height interior wall. There is a counter that overhangs the half wall by an inch. I need the counter to butt into the interior wall and not extend past it. IF I extend the half wall to meet the interior wall then the interior wall automatically shortens to meet it so the counter will then stick past.

I use point to point move to place, no need to turn off bumping. Block when done.