MarkMc

Interesting idea Graham- I rarely place moldings in the cabinet DBX so didn't occur to me. It solves the section problem but creates extra lines in elevation. Like many things in CA, there are multiple ways to sort of do it, pick your poison. A molding Pline would address both issues. I thought it was interesting enough to try it on another persistent issue-extending doors down to cover lights in frameless- lot of work with too many other problems so will continue to do those as I have in the past. (molding pline and trad. overlay cabinet)

Interesting trick Graham, thanks for taking the time. That may be useful in the future. What I was after was an inset cabinet with a flush finished bottom.I was able to make that happen using "blank area' .It looks correct in 3D. I need a section as well though and it doesn't work properly there so have to clean that up for molding detail. I first tried using a frameless cabinet. I can set the bottom separation to 1/12" and make it inset BUT there is no control over the sides, they stay at 3/4". Then tried a trick I've used to show oven cabinet openings narrower than the the other openings on framed cabinets. Split and opening so that it gets extra vertical separations, delete the door section and move the vertical separation over to increase the apparent stile width...didn't work with the frameless cabinets though. The extra separations don't hold. I just wanted to know if there was somewhere to look for the setting. Apparently it is not accessible. Recently had to do half a dozen cabinets with a lot of cubbies/mail slots. Fortunately that changed to 3/4" construction from 5/8" at the last minute. If you change the stiles on a framed cabinet with an opening to 5/8" you get extra lines around the opening. I'd like the frameless setting to be a bit more useful.

Yeah Graham I do stuff like that all the timed, not what I'm looking for.

I needed to get a flush bottom on an inset wall cabinet and I know that frameless are flush on the bottom so thought I'd mess with making a frameless inset but discovered that I can't change the sides. They default to 3/4". I can't find where to change the default separation for the setting of "frameless"-is this accessible somewhere? In the long run this is an issue since two of my frameless suppliers offer both 3/4" and 5/8" sides depending on box material. BTW - to make an inset have a flush bottom-change the bottom separation to "blank area"

Thanks for taking the time Mick. I ran all over, was thinking annosets but couldn't figure what there (thought a lot of things in the two hours I messed with it). Tried deleting the few dims I could see which didn't help. Thought if I didn't have dims in a view that I'd get temps, guess not. This started off a pdf from architect (ft, in) and now adjusting to field measurements (in) of as built to framing, have a dozen rooms to fix. I'll just delete all dims and get to it. This is a big help thanks.

Joe, I've done that at least a dozen times- dragged the interior wall away about 12" up the y axis- just tried it 6 more -no joy. Appears to snap but nada on the WMR. What am I missing.

current settings- match the suggestion

There are a few at Sketchup 3D warehouse.

I set recent to 5, undo to 6 at 100 milliseconds (1000 eliminated undo completely?) Snappier for sure. Perry a thought- if you have CA pinned to the taskbar you can use the jump lists there- I have mine set to 12. I'm going to try 0 in CA and see if I can change habits. I use the jump list on several other progs so shouldn't be too bad.

Thanks Joe, got it. That is what I thought but didn't get there the first 19 times trying edit wall intersection. Not sure if this time I pulled a different way or because I deleted all framing first? But got it.

Kitchen wall starts as an exterior wall, then becomes interior wall. The WMR shows properly on the exterior wall but the material goes away at the point it becomes an interior wall. When selected it shows that the WMR is there- just no texture in that part. I tried a few variations of "edit wall intersection" but can't figure it out.

I thought it was possible to have the temp dim that shows up when you pick a wall to locate the main layer (framing) Could have sworn I had this set somewhere, but can't find it on older plans or this one. Help says- Be aware that the wall length dimension that displays when a wall is selected as well as the Length specification in the Wall Specification dialog do not inherit their settings from the Dimension Defaults. Instead, they follow the Resize About line. SeeResize About. Note: By default, dimensions and the Resize About line all use the exterior edge of the Main Layer. When Resize About is set to use a different location, dimension lines may not agree with a wall’s length specification. See Measuring Walls. I can't figure it out. Is there a way and how do I set it? screen-cap shows manual dim to framing and the temp to surface. Plan attached. 340 post.zip

Those that use dynamic defaults are -this confused me no end in the beginning.

+1

3D warehouse, a quick look finds several

I always also measure the full length of a wall along with the parts. Then add up the parts and check against the full length to determine accuracy before moving on. On CA just draw full walls/ rooms. Drop doors and windows close and adjust by temp dimensions. It's fast.

Polyline solid with a cabinet forced to embed part way or a shallow depth one married to the front. Block them. Save for reuse.

Terry Munson has some good books-if that is a way to go for you. Chief apprentice

Larry, I don't know if that works for him or not. If it does then I'm off the hook. I have to make letter size to a readable scale often so it won't take me long so I offered.

Or if you don't want to post contact me by pm.

I have a short reprieve-got a bign out the door at 2:30 am and waiting on two sets of revisions- not that I have nothing to do but ... Post it with a list of what views you need on letter size and I'll whip it up and post a pdf back. If it's under a dozen shouldn't take long at all.

The easiest work arounds- IF you have a pdf program that takes snapshots AND allows you to create a blank page THEN-create blank page(s) take snap shot(s), paste- till you have them all. The program I use allows scaling of the snapshots as well. Then print that OR IF you have a pdf program that allows you to "select window" to print. IF you don't have that I believe the trial version of Bluebeam Revu is fully functional, good for 30 days. It will do either of those things. Else new layout-which takes longer going that small.

When sending a plan for Chief Viewer use you make an empty folder, then " back up entire plan" into that folder. All textures and materials needed are put there. I've never had this problem on upgrade but I always have the prior version installed. Another option, is to restore the old Chief data folders to the machine. Might be a better choice. I don't know if you need to migrate the materials etc to the x7 data folders.

Empty folder-X5-File-backup entire plan. Then open that file in X7. Might work

Re sent the zip file. No doubt you can see from the pic of the open DBX- I'd tried the 2D Block tab..a few times. Creating a new block worked thanks. When I inserted the block into the plan it is not a closed pline but just lines- I assume that is why it won't take a fill. I just don't understand how it got that way on some and not on others. I know that the ones I started with all were closed.??