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with your file if I click- - "make make room molding polyline" and leave it set to 0 I get what you got. -Do the same and set to 4" and I get what Arthur got. -make room polyline- then convert to molding polyline- get a pline with fewer nodes.

select all using ctrl+a, space bar or shift select a group then space bar, skip past what you want on, and shift select again

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They are on a Pdf so can't be selected. That layer is locked so you can trace them to make your own profiles. They are scaled to actual size and are common profiles. I drew a few and placed them on the side to show the needed orientation to have prior to sending to the library.

Youdaman you too Scott thanks guys. Sunyaer might want to mark this as solved.

Joe, the material doesn't rotate with the object. I tried faces to see if they work differently but rotate a face also altered the size for some reason?? Great idea Scott, it keeps the grain going properly but that makes a mitered door not a rail and stile door. Still very useful though don't use them often I just took on a line that has quite a few and does them well (rare) I was not looking forward to making them with solids. Wish I'd thought of that some time back when I had to do a bunch of floor inlays for a client- using my limited brute force tactics took some time, this is easy. Still wonder what the magic trick is? Is it a secret? Where's Doug?

Those behave the same way the one I made in Chief (which also has the grain correct) does- that is click the eyedropper tool, select a texture, apply to the doors. IT will change either the rails or the stiles and panel depending on where you click. (middle and right in attached pic) So it takes an extra click and an extra material definition. Doors in the core catalog, along with many (most?) in the manufacturers catalogs show grain correctly for both rails and stiles AND the entire door changes when a new material is applied and it shows the new grain correctly. (left in attached pic) So the question is how to make a door that does that? I have tried blocking, exploding, adding faces, exporting in every file format and reimporting as a symbol. I did not mess with the exported files first but based on the sketchup import I don't see that as a likely solution.

I don't know how to do it ay other way than what I show. Which works but as you see adds a step when changing texture. Hopefully someone else knows an alternate. I've tried more than a few variants with no success. If no responses may try something over in the Q&A forum. I have at least one plan using catalog doors where the grain doesn't work once I changed textures and not sure what I did or how to fix and ought to find out.

If the frame is made from a single p-solid with another subtracted from it then all change at once- but grain also goes only in one direction. pic below Checked and don't see jaggedness you are talking about on my machine. Molding lines are straight as far as I can tell, perhaps the molding profile has some roughness and you can see it? Since you have the plan you can change any of the parts you think might help. Don't get why you had issues with the door I loaded? Sizing should have been x -3,3 and z 12" works properly for me? Why--3,3 pic below

Are you having trouble with the one I included? Checked and it seems to be working properly on mine. I use the -3,+3 for adding muntins.

Thanks Joe-thought you'd know

Here is a zipped plan file you can play with, call it a kit. There is one set of parts for a door with just an framing bead, and on the wall next to it another that a molding Pline for the lip (outside edge) I also placed a finished door in the plan- you want to open the symbol and look at the "sizing tab" -I almost always have to set these by trial and error, just can't remember what they should be. You can change the molding profiles. Both have a recessed panel -somebody smarter than me (Joe?) has to tell you how to make raised panels in Chief- I don't know how. If I need that I use other software. You can snag a few raised panels from the 3d Warehouse (sketchup which is what I'm more likely to use if I'm making a door) or raised panel doors there and edit them till you have a panel to use. I made some notes in the plan and elevation about what is going on in each and why I use the view. If they don't show check the layers that show. Once a door is the way you want it: Save as- name the file for the new door, then delete everything else but the door parts- walls cameras, text profiles- everything. Go to a perspective view, select: Tools, Symbol, convert to symbol, select cabinet door from drop down, check off "add to library" and "advanced options". Note- this door is made with separate rails and stiles- there is also a way to make the that out of a single object. If I have to go to the trouble of making a door I want the texture of the rails and stiles to show correctly (going in different directions) so I go to the trouble to do it this way. There may be simpler ways to do all of this in which case someone will hopefully chime in. As noted earlier I snag as many existing doors as possible from the over 40 mfg catalogs- there area lot to pick from. FWIW I sell cabinets (5 mfgs- none with catalogs in Chief; 3 supported in 2020) and I primarily use Chief.

one place to start is with the various manufacturer catalogs. Open a new plan, draw 4 walls and take a perspective view. Then go to a manufacturer catalog and start dragging cabinet doors onto the plan. Click OK when it asks if you want to place as a free standing object. Look at the 3D view. As you find door styles you will need add them to your library, one at a time and rename each one to something relevant to you. I use several brands and keep a folder with door styles for each. It is a bit tedious but you can find a fair amount of what you will need. Whatever you can't find you will then need to make as Joe outlined. When making your own it is a good idea to check them on a wall cabinet in 3d. Change the size a few times to make sure your new symbol works properly. You may want to keep the help section on stretch zones and planes open until you get doors to behave properly. This is most important for doors with muntins.

I use both semi and full custom but both by a manufacturer. Both rely on written order, with drawings for clarity. All the competing cabinet software does pretty pictures. I would not have dumped a $6k investment , with 15 years familiarity, in program pricing and a decent cabinet list with mods for pretty pictures. I think cabinet and interior people are just a market of opportunity for CA, hardly a priority. I've run into more kitchen folks who dumped CA than use it. Really, I don't see any other features listed anywhere, cabinet or otherwise? Where is the list? This feature was heavily requested by "building" folks on the forum (of course there are many more of them here) it would not be one of my priorities. I'd agree it may play well to the bleachers. Give me control over cabinet sides, fix clipped corners, show side panels in plan, snap dimensions to cabinet parts, put "guts" into "Interiors", ...I might see things otherwise, but I'm not about to make book on any of them. A general fix to schedules would be a benefit for me and I suspect many users. As to the GUI- I'm for anything that improves productivity or accuracy. That along with stability are why I use it. Cost? If a competing software (or an upgraded ver$ion of Chief) was suddenly a major improvement for my work I'd be on it as soon as I could afford it, Tools and materials are almost always cheaper than labor.

I took an 8hr on line class thru Chief as a jump starter. Then and now use all the resources mentioned and read this forum every day. The "legacy chieftalk" -old forum - is near the top of the forum page.

Just tried a variation on Scott's suggestion. Opened a plan then placed cabinets in it -nothing else- set each to a specific configuration and saved as a template. So any one of those cabinets can be used to set the default which will take care of the toe, top drawer, etc. mentioned below. I'll work with that for a while- would cut down on templates - still doesn't really solve the switching problem-wish select same load same had a way to deal with it. Scott-Hadn't tried that -just gave it a shot now to see if that is better...not sure it is but will try it a little further to see.if it is an improvement. One issue I found off the bat is the toe height. If I set a toe height for a cabinet to say 4" and remove the "D" but the plan has 4" as the default it adds back the "D" . So if I send it to the library and drag it into a plan with 4-1/2" toe it switches to that . IF it is a drawer base (variations of which are the most common cabinets I store) that changes the drawer heights. Guess I could change the default on the plan, then change the cabinet toe to a non default and then add one to the library for each variable to use to reset the defaults A couple of critical elements in cabinets don't respond to defaults; top drawer height and construction (Inset, frameless, overlay) are two. I have: 2 toe heights, 4 top drawer heights, 2 reveals on frameless, 3 for overlay, 2 top rail heights for inset walls...two templates configured as traditional overlay (one frameless and one full overlay) so that I can make the top and bottom reveals match the specs. Biggest thing for me is the need to make multiple variations for a client or change is mid stream....Doors style and color are easy. Construction and brand not so much once everything is in place. Would be nice to streamline it all (or have more cooperative clients , so far templates have helped. I'll try your suggestion a bit- I'm open to anything.

For me the building defaults are either existing or decided by someone else so I set those as needed. I have about 9 for different cabinet makes and construction -top drawer, toe, and top rail height; inset, overlay and frameless. I did save one for raised ranches with a building in place and have a couple of extra with 9 foot ceilings with stacked cabinets. Occasionally I can open an old plan and work off that.

No, there is not a way to change that. For just a few cabinets you can fix it in layout-(this is for Premier- won't work in Interiors) easiest to first draw cad in elevation I drew a pline rectangle, sized it and point to point to move to corner of the cabinet- have to zoom in since it doesn't snap. Then transform replicate/copy by a factor of 0.9, then adjust the dimensions to 5/8. Once in layout use tools,layout, edit layout lines(not available in interiors) and delete the original lines at 3/4" then you have to adjust all the shelf lines to meet you gable. I thought there was a way to resize a pline box by a dimensions but can't find it- anyone know how to do that??

MSI has at least one laptop that supports 4k external via HDMI even though native resolution is 1920. Those specs could easily be trimmed to half the cost and still be overkill. I could arch my Sager today for under 1500. I'm pretty sure CA runs better on the Geoffrey cards than the Quadro and generally less money for equal memory. Lastly a 55" in that small a space seams like a bit much.

Look forward to see the results. 1 of 5 supports PK- 3 support 2020 but only one accepts it for pricing- 3 have on line pricing systems. Getting a correctly numbered schedule in 2020 is no picnic either. Bluebeam has a trial should you wish to play with that. I selected a sequence tool- placed in a drawing, altered the font and circle size to suit, then saved to toolbox.

It is far more likely that I purchase PK than re-up 2020 (simply dread the thought) Most of my work is better suited to Chief. Well thanks to the help on this thread I did find a way to create a schedule within Chief -I've attached a zip file with a plan that uses what I found on this thread I also included a pdf of a recent job showing what I'm describing below being done in Bluebeam. For the Chief plan the key was altering component list and entering into a new coiumn that doesn't go away with editing. This was a relatively simple kitchen for me, much simpler than the one in the layout. In the long run the process is too cumbersome- I may revisit it once they make some changes. I really would like to be able to stay in one program for safety sake. What I'm doing now... I've set up annosets to allow- dimensioning to just wall cabs, just base, just room- then to another to show them all, some with labels, others with and without labels, some others. I typically produce 2 (sometimes a 3rd just for ordering) cabinet plan views in layout- one for the client in plain English (no labels) -another for install and checking sometimes a third for just ordering. If the brand for the job has something close to civilized nomenclature and it is a simple job I (sometimes) make needed adjustments to labels in Chief for at least the main cabinet and finished sides. Accessories and modifications get messy so I don't include them in labels in chief. I have gone back and forth trying to do all labels and call-outs in Chief so that I can check things better OR doing them all after the fact. Currently I'm keeping all instructions and specific callouts in Chief but labels are done after the fact. (annosets helps a lot with this). Lables, schedule and cabinet numbering: I print the plain English plan and a no label plan- then get out a pencil to fill in the labels. This is only for the purpose of checking over the order. Once the order is done- on line, drag and drop in 2020, or in a spreadsheet -which one simply depends on what the brand has available and complexity Then I get the order into a spreadsheet, (at this point changes create mayhem) then I copy the relevant columns from the order and paste that into Bluebeam. Then I go on to number cabinets in both plan and elevation sheets then check that. To number cabinets to relate to the schedule I use a layout plan page with no labels, and elevations with no labels. Then in Bluebeam PDF Revu. I use one of it's "sequence" tools that I have customized and saved in my toolbox- click and it stamps with user defined prefix and number , each click advances the number in sequence as you go-fast and easy once you play with it a little. Can be reset or started over with a new prefix (for instance an job with multiple finishes which will have to go on seperate orders (i.e Cherry=C1,C2,C3...white= W1,W2<...) I'd first used this with 2020 before CA and had hoped to do away with it. Lately I have not even been adding labels to all jobs but if I do then.... Final labels are added in Bluebeam- I open two instances of the same document, place on separate monitors, copy nomenclature from the schedule, and past as a label on the the appropriate layout page. Once added, all those labels can be group selected to reformat to fit. It's a convoluted system BUT faster than trying to do it in Chief. The brands I carry have serious diversity in nomenclature and I do a lot of mods and accessories which makes doing it in Chief too cumbersome. As you pointed out trying to create full catalog for a single line is daunting, 4 different companies comprising twice as many lines.

I gave up trying to get a schedule out of CA. Faster to generate it elsewhere; 2020, on-line order, spreadsheet, and paste into PDF of layout. I use Bluebeam so numbering cabs is a snap. Half the time I don't even do labels in Chief -certainly not mods or accessories and too many variations in nomenclature. CA gives me good docs and one way or another I can configure "most" cabinets...which is what I wanted. Looked into PK a year or so ago but opted for a second CA license. Maybe next time, likely sooner than renewing 2020 from what I've seen. Will be checking software at KBIS.

I've got a couple of lambs tongue edges in my library. Don’t remember how they were acquired or made. Not very good since I don't really understand stretch planes but have slapped em on the end on occasion. Sure it's a word, ever had filleted flounder

Shelves , top and bottom shelves at 1.5" , back ans side as partitions , columns as noted earler, face frame is two seperate 3 d molding lines. All of that took 10-15 minutes But the 3d molding liines that is another story- played with it for an hour-best I could get is here... The intersection of the molding lines don't get reall neat, cant miter them and could not figur out how to make it work as a single 3d line going in all 3 planes?? thought that was possible, maybe someone smarter can chime in here. Attached plan so you can dissect it.

Been that way since I've had it (X3). Default full depth shelf is from front edge to back with no clearance, just asking for Z fighting. IRL shelves are always set back. Switching doors styles is not really a solution, 80% of clients want a recess panel door. Not the biggest pain since it can be resolved in templates.