Kbird1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 16 hours ago, Chopsaw said: Just did a quickie test plan and it looks like you should be able to do a transparent ( Insulation Air Gap ) soffit material and a 5 1/2" sub fascia and then manually delete the sub fascia. The custom rafter tail seems like it should work but this might be easier. Hi Chopsaw , I thought this method would work too , made the sub-Fascia 1/16th thick and was just going to make it/paint it White with the Rafters but for some reason in my Test Plan it will not let me have White Rafters/subfascia if I use an Air Gap or Open - No Material Material for the Soffit..... I see that you can ...would you mind posting your test plan so I can figure out why it doesn't work here, thanks.... unless You Know why? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Mick, Try turning off the sub fascia with it set to 5 1/2" like Perry suggested and then set the Insulation air gap material in the Materials tab with Edit all roof planes. I can post the plan if it does not work but I think it should be working for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 46 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Mick, Try turning off the sub fascia with it set to 5 1/2" like Perry suggested and then set the Insulation air gap material in the Materials tab with Edit all roof planes. I can post the plan if it does not work but I think it should be working for you. The reason I made it 1/16th was that if I turn it off the Rafters don't get Cut at 5 1/2 inch Maybe my Profile.Plan is no longer the OOB Profile Plan from CA and something is messed up..... not sure maybe it isn't the X9 version? in my Plans Folder ? M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Interesting, Check out my test plan just in case there is something we missed. Transparent Soffit Test.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Chop's looks good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 55 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Mick, Try turning off the sub fascia with it set to 5 1/2" like Perry suggested and then set the Insulation air gap material in the Materials tab with Edit all roof planes. I can post the plan if it does not work but I think it should be working for you. Leave it on, don't turn off, its invisible, !/16" is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 the difference is that I have a Fascia Board .....turn it back on and no White Rafters in Chop's Plan either..... not sure why your Rafters still get cut yet with no sub Fascia. Weirdly to do that I had to use the "Edit All Roof Planes" tool for existing Roof Planes, which I didn't need to do in Mine ????? Ahhhhhh the quirks of CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 There is a difference between sub fascia and soffit, make soffit invisible to see rafters ,and just turn off sub-fascia but also set it at 5.5" , it will stick.. if you want a fascia turn it on, You may have to change the rafter colors manually unless you have set your defaults to white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Mick, Something really strange must be happening for you. Here is the same plan file with eave sub fascia turned back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 also the sheathing can be a white color to match, I also have that set up in defaults, if the color changes, it's easy to change the defaults to whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 May be a dumb question but are you guys changing your rafters to a white material after you frame the roof? Don't they have to be "fir framing" first to build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just blend in any color you want in the defaults, purple is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, Ridge_Runner said: May be a dumb question but are you guys changing your rafters to a white material after you frame the roof? Don't they have to be "fir framing" first to build? Its actually the material definition that matters the most. You can use ANY material from the library just so long as the material type is set to Framing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said: You can use ANY material from the library just so long as the material type is set to Framing... Thanks, Perry and Michael. Used Chief for years and had not noticed this feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said: Its actually the material definition that matters the most. You can use ANY material from the library just so long as the material type is set to Framing... That's it --- exposed, carpet-wrapped studs WILL be in one of my houses some day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldesigns Posted December 18, 2017 Author Share Posted December 18, 2017 I missed all this today? Still wonder why I get timed out of the forum..? Anyways, all great stuff here, with Chops method, by using the air gap for the soffit, it gave me the exposed rafters. However I still needed the fascia, but like K bird noted, the rafters aren't painted. I set all the fascia thicknesses to 7 1/4", then unchecked the Gable and Eave fascia and left Eave Sub checked. This gave me the tail at the right thickness. This still showed the OSB of the sub-roofing material, so I covered that with a thin shadow board (1/16 x 1-1/2") to cover the OSB and the gap that was on the gabled end. Finished off with frieze board with a vertical offset..(because with a soffit roof blocking is not automatic. Is it perfect, nope, but it gets me going in the right direction. Still has that weird birds mouth cut like what chop showed on 18 and a little "point" sticking out there on the gable end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I don't think chief has put any programming in place to display bird's mouth cuts unless you want to apply a perfectly precise rafter tail. The "point" looks to be generated by the frieze board and Eric may have a solution or comment on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hip rafters do not cut like rafters do, Chief classifies hips as ridges and they don't cut with sub fascia on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL-inc Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Way late to the party but am in need of converting the rafter tail profile that Eric poste in rafter tail demo plan to an actual tail I can add to my library. Any direction is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL-inc Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yes I am- I opened the plan and can see the profile. What I need to know is how to take that line drawing and create the tail that will be applied to the actual rafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) Rob all you need to do is select the polyline and put it into your user library. It automatically goes in as a profile. Edited May 11, 2018 by Chopsaw Thanks for the correction Eric. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL-inc Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Worked like a champ - thanks as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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