Clemsongrad Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I've used Auto Achitect (Cadcraft) with Autocad, Microstation, Softplan, Datacad, Sketchup and now considering Chief Architect. To me the selling point is excellent communication of ideas to owner and their builder. I have two residential home projects and I am wondering what others have done to showcase the features CA affords a client. Simply put, in a crowded marketplace, how can I best sell my services to a client who could go to a builder and buy a tract home, or to a blueprint shop and get a set of plans. I'm not speaking of design ability as I can show past projects, but how to sell a very comprehensive set of drawings and for them to appreciate what they will do to avoid miscommunication and mistakes. How can present this quickly and efficiently? Thanks! PS. I love sketch up and really like datacad, but think the 3D model and drawing extraction from it is the way to go. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 To start, if your market is "a client who could go to a builder and buy a tract home, or to a blueprint shop and get a set of plans" then you need to find a new market where a better presentation that comes with a higher price tag is valued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsongrad Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Both of these projects are for friends who need to be educated. My question was how to best educate them. THX Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 For my presentations, mainly for custom homes, I use "Go to Meeting" as a via to work with the client so they help me develop the design. I also print to PDF a letter sized, color layout for renderings-exterior and interior views in full color and a second layout, usually Arch D or E sized PDF file showing mainly 2D plans. This way the client is kept in the loop and is an active participant in the design creative cycle. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Once you have a 3d model built and begin to present with that model, your clients reaction to being able to view their project from all camera angles will sell itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsongrad Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Let me put this another way. I want the client to value the fact that they will get not only plans and elevations, but full framing drawings, material quantities with pricing for cost analysis, 2D AND 3D views, bathrooms and kitchens they can see what they are getting. Energy performance. A set of drawings that will save them money. This is a presentation before I'm hired. How do you get them to GRASP the value? Thanks Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Once you have a 3d model built and begin to present with that model, your clients reaction to being able to view their project from all camera angles will sell itself. True story: I was showing my client her project in 3D and she said, "I can't picture what it will look like" What should I of said to her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 "What should I of said to her?" That is one of those moments when you need to have that Kenny Rodgers song ready to play in your head. "Know when to hold em..." "Em" being your tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 True story: I was showing my client her project in 3D and she said, "I can't picture what it will look like" What should I of said to her? Hmmm..... That sounds very similar to someone I know who keeps saying "I just can't figure out how to use macros". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Larry, maybe just show them a basic set vs. a more detailed set? For sales advice I go to Alec Baldwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemsongrad Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 Showing two different sets is good. (Wonder where I can get a poor set) I'm thinking that if I had something to quote that says the average builder has to put in a contingency factor to cover unknowns. Or, with a detailed cost of materials they can get a better bid as they act as general contractor and sub out trades. In marketing you want to show the benefits. What are the benefits? Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Some Builders really only care about the price you give them, but some want Quality plans Cheap, take your pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I had a client wanting to build a 1.6 Million house but decided he only wanted to spend $800,000 he insisted he didn't want 3D I created a set of 3D camera views in preparation for adding to my website as my "prime project" went to a meeting showed him the 3D prints and he went crazy and wanted a set for his wife as she couldn't understand 2D plans fortunately, I ended up firing him as a client as he kept trying to nickel and dime on "one more set of minor changes" Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 If your client doesn't come into the relationship with an understanding of the difference between off the shelf and custom or semi-custom, then there isn't much of anything you can say or do. Sounds pessimistic, but it's honest. If I have to spend more than 5 minutes explaining what I can do over off the shelf, then I have no interest. Wish them luck and move on. EDIT: And be prepared to drop your pants. They will toss around the cost savings of going off the shelf until you are doing the job for break even or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I agree with Joey's sentiment. If someone walks up to a Tesla and says "but it is just a car" then the conversation is over. Be the Tesla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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