chief58 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I am trying to frame a deck and it isn't showing the deck framing for some reason, I do have them check to show and there is a plus sign next to the display, could someone take a look and see before I pull what is left of my hair out Thank you Mattioli 04.02.16-FRAMING .zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I could not find or cause to be created automatically any deck framing. I know this is annoying but you can either send to Tech Support and hope for a timely solution, draw the deck framing manually or start over. I have never seen the software do particularly this since Version 4. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Thanks for looking David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_Gavin Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Try shutting down chief and restarting. Can't hurt. Maybe even reboot computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Its your floor structure settings. I believe decks need 2 layers in the Planks,Joists section. You only have one. Move your Trex decking down to that Planks,Joists section and you should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Confirmed my suspicion. From the Help files... "...A Deck room is an exterior-type room that uses deck planking and framing to create a floor platform rather than using a floor finish..." I underlined that last part for emphasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 Thanks Michael much appreciated that fixed it, guess I don't understand there reasoning since whenever I built a deck it had the floor jsts and then the decking I had the planking under floor finish thinking it would be the decking which it did show the finish with not framing, not looking at it when it says jsts and planking once I got rid of the floor finish and just put in the floor jsts and the planking as the decking it worked out, thank you again you saved me a few hairs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Thanks Michael much appreciated that fixed it, guess I don't understand there reasoning since whenever I built a deck it had the floor jsts and then the decking I had the planking under floor finish thinking it would be the decking which it did show the finish with not framing, not looking at it when it says jsts and planking once I got rid of the floor finish and just put in the floor jsts and the planking as the decking it worked out, thank you again you saved me a few hairs You bet. I think the reasoning is that decks are a unique structure with 2 framing layers rather than a finish that spans the entire floor. Come to think of it, that's exactly what the Help files said but I didn't realize what it meant till just now. I actually cut that part off the quote because it seemed unnecessary but I guess it was... "A Deck room is an exterior-type room that uses deck planking and framing to create a floor platform rather than using a floor finish that spans the entire room area." A floor finish in other words covers every square inch while deck planking is multiple pieces of framing material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted April 2, 2016 Author Share Posted April 2, 2016 makes sense know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Decks make a good tool for lattice top patio covers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Decks make a good tool for lattice top patio covers. Yep. That's a pretty cool idea Perry. For anyone unfamiliar: The width, spacing, and direction for the top framing layer for the deck is controlled via the Deck tab...Deck Planking. The width and spacing for any additional layers is controlled via the Deck tab...Deck Joists. You can only have one unique top layer (planks) but you can have multiple additional layers beneath that (joists). The additional layers will all have the same width and spacing but could be separated with an Opening (No Material) layer . The depth of all the aforementioned materials are controlled via the room Structure tab...Planks, Joists. You can get very creative by checking "Keep deck framing after the deck room is deleted". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief16Designer Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Is there a setting for automatic deck framing to frame like this Post to top of rail and beam from post to post thx Pete see attach thx Screen Shot 2016-04-02 at 1.25.29 PM.png Is there a setting for automatic deck framing to frame like this Post to top of rail and beam from post to post thx Pete see attach thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 No, after it frames just turn off automatic deck framing and move it. We have asked for Beam placement but haven't got it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscott Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Perry, I am trying to force the the Deck Joist to run parallel with my Floor Joist. I've done this before by changing the Joist direction in the "Deck" dbx but this time nothing seems to work. I don't want it like the image below. I'd be happy to post a video of what all I am doing if that will help. Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Did you turn off auto floor framing, if it is, turn it on and use the joist direction tool, it should work. Make sure the deck is not locked also. Under decking turn on auto framing or re-frame it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscott Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Perry, What you suggested worked! Check out the video if you have time. There are a couple of other items you might find interesting. 1) Stair landing Railing. Shows balusters and Newel post bit displays a solid panel 2) Eave over stairs is not filling in. 3) Eave and Soffit over Deck is lower than rest of roof. Thanks again, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Scott, The problem with the solid looking railing is that both your Width and Spacing settings for the balusters is 2". These settings mean that you have 2" balusters at 2" ON CENTER, which means they are abutting each other with no gap between. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Scott, For your deck room try deleting the Ceiling and select "Use Soffit Surface for Ceiling". As for the overhang above the stairs, open the Roof Plane Specifications > Options > Deselect "Default to Overhang" and set length to same as extended overhang. And one question you did not ask is your cantilevered joists with the little joiner blocks? Is that the way they build on the beach? Select your outer stringers and make them non bearing. It is a little counter intuitive but framing will make more sense and possibly weather the next storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 remember ,for the soffit problem ,to rebuild your roof planes with each change, unless you have auto roof framing on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrscott Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Stair issue resolved Eaves (overhange) resovled. Ceiling planes are still an issue i'M PREPARING A VIDEO DESCRIBING THE ABOVE AND A FEW OTHER THINGS FOR BETA. Edited January 15, 2017 by mrscott Additional data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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