johnny Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I am working through my project - slowly. Anyway, I was looking for advice on the roof. A modern house with a "flat" roof that will have some edging details. Is there any reason I would want to fuss with the roof planes, or am I fine using poly tools to create the roof shapes? My plan was to model the roof with shapes and skip the roof tools. Part of the issue is I am still designing through this plan in my mind, so messing with roof tools seems like it will be a lot of trial and error to get what I want. Thanks for any advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 As a newbe take my advice with a grain of salt. The roof tool is easy to modify & you can control depth of the structure (fascia) and other trim elements easily. All the elements are in one dbx. That's my 2cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwideziner Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Roofs can be reshaped as easy as a poly line. As Alan has found out it also lets you adjust everything else in the one DBX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Another option - if you need to have parapet walls: Just make another floor (no ceiling, no roof, room height(s) to match the parapet height) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Thanks for the comments - and the recommend on how to do the parapet walls. What about the fact I won't have a "ridge" and my perimeter will be all leading edges of the roof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 No problem, drag the edges of the roof plane where they need to be. Under framing adjust the rafter depth & fascia depth Also add a shadow board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Oh forgot. Select the roof plane & use it's break tool to shape the roof to fit your odd shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Yep - worked perfect. I guess the connection of roof faces determines those edge types. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yusuf-333 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Thanks for the comments - and the recommend on how to do the parapet walls. What about the fact I won't have a "ridge" and my perimeter will be all leading edges of the roof? Johnny, flat roofs are what we do here whether a slab roof or very small pitch roof. The roof tool is very flexible and for example, i have attached the pic of a house I am working on and still under modeling, and the final look may be totally different from this one. I use chief for idea analysis. and don't forget using the shadow boards for various purposes. The other image is an office building with slab roof I have done during the x2 era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Nice, Yusuf. These images have post work done in Photoshop or similar editing software, right? I can't get Chief to give me the clarity you show with the nice soft touch in the house, but I am also not an expert in the rendering department. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Emery Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I think that others have focused on the roof, but the parapet wall can be done in at least five or six different ways, depending on what the cross section should look like. This is a place where Chief offers a lot of options; none of which are work arounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I think a roof will serve you better. Here's a brief video outlining Chief's roof behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Another option - if you need to have parapet walls: Just make another floor (no ceiling, no roof, room height(s) to match the parapet height) Also, if you make those parapet walls a solid railing wall , it will give you a wall cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Larry with the roof selected you need to use the break tool in the right click menu or the lower left menu, not the one in the upper ribbon menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Which parapet wall method bet work for framing in CA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Larry with the roof selected you need to use the break tool in the right click menu or the lower left menu, not the one in the upper ribbon menu. Larry was trying to use the wall break tool that only works for walls. The 3 key is, the break line tool, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Which parapet wall method bet work for framing in CA? That depends on if you want the wall to balloon frame from the floor to the top of the parapet, or not. More info on how you want it to be.. Lots of different ways to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Larry with the roof selected you need to use the break tool in the right click menu or the lower left menu, not the one in the upper ribbon menu. Yeah, haven't used that tool for 10 years since I discovered the 3 key. Thanks, I'll remember that next time so as not to distract from the purpose of the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Typically I like to place the roof trusses on the exterior wall. Then deck the roof trusses & then build the parapet wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Typically I like to place the roof trusses on the exterior wall. Then deck the roof trusses & then build the parapet wall. Alan, is this real world construction you're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Balloon framing - or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This might be the way you want to frame a trussed floor with a parapet wall. Check the end of the video for some fun that I'll try and resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DRAWZILLA Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Balloon framing - or not. Larry, thanks for the video, I was just commenting for the O.P., he seemed a little confused. I think the reason that the balloon frame stopped where it did was b/c , I believe you used a roof plane, and a balloon frame at the below wall ,will only take you up to the roof, if you had used a floor system as the roof, it would have gone full height. But if you have to create a slope on that roof, use a roof and do it using the go thru floor method like you did in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 One more detail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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