DHerb2014 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I've got a question on X6 regarding dimensions and how to over-ride what's shown on the drawing? For example, a dimension says "36'-01/8" and you want it changed to read "36'-0"". My old way is to use a text box, fill it with white color and a white border. Set it over the top of the errant dimension and then use Text layer and call out 36'-0". This is not a great way of over-riding the dimension. In AutoCAD, you have a way of doing this very easily. With Chief X6, there must be a way to accomplish this without all the extra effort? I've been looking a the vids and cannot figure this one out? Is this even possible to over-ride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Best way is to move the object 1/8". Otherwise, do it the way you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottharris Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 You could also open that one dimension setting and change the 'smallest fraction' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHerb2014 Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks guys as always! Not sure where my other 550 posts went on this new site, but I can start over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Best way is to move the object 1/8" This doesn't always work as then the next dim is off by 1/8" I prefer to set "smallest fraction" to 1" or 1/2" at the very end of the project unless I think those fractions are going to matter Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This doesn't always work as then the next dim is off by 1/8" Lew, If the next dimension is off by 1/8", then move that object as well! I can't see any reason why a dimension should not be accurate. But then, working in metric, I suppose that we have it easy in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Glen: it becomes like Jello eventually you can come all around the plan and get back to where you started especially with an as-built Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDandD Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This can be a big issue on houses with angled wings or walls. You can try all you want but you get lots of 1/16" dimensions. What I do is get them as close as I can to cleaner dimensions. I will do the foundation plan with 1/16 ths and then on the floor plan I clean them up a little. Most times setting min dimension to 1/4. (and I really dont like having 1/4" in plans...but it is a compromise) As a habit, most of the surveyors will take a direct export of a DWG so I know the foundation points will get to them with good accuracy to be entered into their site plans and following footings. The 1/16ths.....will work their way out from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 as stated above at the very end set min fraction to 1" and all the fractions are "hidden" Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 I set my grid snaps and dimensions to 1/4" and never have that problem. That cover just about every condition using wood studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Perry: that may work for new construction not so for as-builts Lew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Lew It works for me and 90% of my work is extensive remodels, try it. You can include or not include any room in any schedule to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Perry: I prefer to keep my dims as close to live as possible until the very end then I usually set min fraction to 1" (maybe 1/2") Lew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 prefer to keep my dims as close to live as possible I always keep dims live. I just don't dimension anything less than 1/2" usually, its close enough for everyone involved. Framers never want to see 1/8" or lower. They just laugh at it and call us names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hotshoez Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 They just laugh at it and call us names. That is not very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Perry: I measure to 1/16" and model to 1/16" but at the end I only show to nearest 1" (or 1/2") I try to put in only essential dims as framers get mad if you try to give to many details Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyToo Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Lew It works for me and 90% of my work is extensive remodels, try it. You can include or not include any room in any schedule to do it. Perry, would you mind explaining what you mean by the last part of your statement? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Mickey ok, try this video. http://screencast.com/t/5VAM1clQw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_on_Cape Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I've got a question on X6 regarding dimensions and how to over-ride what's shown on the drawing? For example, a dimension says "36'-01/8" and you want it changed to read "36'-0"". My old way is to use a text box, fill it with white color and a white border. Set it over the top of the errant dimension and then use Text layer and call out 36'-0". This is not a great way of over-riding the dimension. In AutoCAD, you have a way of doing this very easily. With Chief X6, there must be a way to accomplish this without all the extra effort? I've been looking a the vids and cannot figure this one out? Is this even possible to over-ride? As a home designer for the past 20+ years and a EWP designer for 4 years (where I had to work with hundreds of designers /architects plans)........I'd fire an employee who did what you're suggesting above.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickeyToo Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Thanks, Perry. That explains it nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Jay: well, that would be your privilege as boss I guess you are implying there should never be fractions in a plan ? or are you saying if there are fractions you would never "hide" them ? two different thoughts there If you are saying there should never be fractions in a plan then I say that you gurus must have special ways of modeling that us mere mortals haven't achieved yet furthermore, on the plans I worked on the builders and framers didn't give a rats behind about fractions and would have been annoyed if I had left them on the plans so I guess it all depends on who's in charge and what their standards/needs are Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_on_Cape Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I guess you are implying there should never be fractions in a plan ? or are you saying if there are fractions you would never "hide" them ? No, I'm saying I would never use "electronic whiteout". You fudge a dimension you have no idea what else is fudged in the dimension string or elsewhere. As an EWP designer I can't tell you how many drawings I had to design floor systems for that didn't close when I tried to just draw the exterior....Meaning someone (usually an Autocad designer) lied with one dimension and didn't fix it elsewhere.....When you get to the end of the drawing what do you do with all of those fractions or inches? Cut cabinets, doors, window trim etc. in the field? On a related side rant I used to love the architects / designers who would still draft by hand (this was back in the 00's) and would dimension to both sides of the stud and figure 2 x 4's as 4"...........Oh that was a hoot! By the time you got to the other side of the house it would be off by 3-4 inches if you didn't move every one over a 1/4" thereby rendering each dimension inaccurate.......Ahhhh the life of an EWP designer......brings back memories....most of them bad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzsaw204 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 when you insert the Joist Direction arrow, it just shows 2x12 JOISTS @ 16" o/c. although i'm using 11 7/8" I-JOISTS @ 16" O/C Is there a way to override the Joist Direction Arrow text to show actual joist use in plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Jay: understood, thanks for the clarification Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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