Pivot entry doors, modeling

[VisualDandD]

So finally have a client really to push some bounds on a modern.   We are going to spec a 6'x10' pivot door w/ center pivot.   My only issue is trying to represent in Chief.

I can of course do a door frame and make some solids to represent the door.  But wondering if there is a better way.

I was experimenting with the door dialogue, and if you do a double door, swing both ways, you can have them pivot from center of door.   But that is falling short for me.

Wondering how others may have solved this....   I am sure @Renerabbitt has probably done this with a cabinet at some point

Any help or ideas are appreciated.

[Renerabbitt]

27 minutes ago, VisualDandD said:

with a cabinet at

You’re not wrong

 

[VisualDandD]

1 hour ago, Renerabbitt said:

You’re not wrong

 

@Renerabbitt  I was half joking, but only half

 

I will play around with it.  I have to see what they end up picking style wise, but I was thinking of fudging with a polyline solid built up and make the 2-d work in CAD.

Thank you for sharing.  You have certainly fallen down the 'rabbit hole' with the work arounds using cabinets!  Nice!

[robdyck]

You could give something like this a try. I used 2 doors, 2 different width. They overlap by 5/8" in plan view. Then I modified a door symbol's stretch plane.

Do not mull them.

[Alaskan_Son]

I personally wouldn't overthink it and wouldn't hesitate to just insert a standalone symbol inside an Opening for one off situations like this.  Yes, it can be done in various ways with cabinets or doors but I don't see any real benefit in having to futz around with all those various settings and the typically undesirable plan view display.  To show open and closed, just use 2 symbols placed on different layers. 

[VisualDandD]

11 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

I personally wouldn't overthink it and wouldn't hesitate to just insert a standalone symbol inside an Opening for one off situations like this.  Yes, it can be done in various ways with cabinets or doors but I don't see any real benefit in having to futz around with all those various settings and the typically undesirable plan view display.  To show open and closed, just use 2 symbols placed on different layers. 

 

 

Michael,

This was kind of the route I was thinking.  KISS.   I have a few layer sets that show in 3d and elev that dont show up on my FP views.   Seems easy enough to do with a few things.

 

Might be too niche a thing, but be a nice feature to add to doors to control pivot point...etc.

 

I am just excited.  Kinda like graduating to the 'big' leagues.   FINALLY getting to work with a client who does not care about budget.  Of course everyone cares to some extent, but it is not factoring into design decisions.   Normally on modern homes, I start to run into things getting deleted because of cost and that wont happen here.   Will have lots of steel, built-up roofs, and tons of commercial glazing, giant glass accordian walls...etc.   Fun stuff.

 

I have done a good amount of modern, but it is always on the budget minded side.   This time I get to free myself from those restrictions!  

[VisualDandD]

Thanks guys.   Bump update.  Bringing into focus.....

 

It is nice when you are not asked to compromise much on the design end.  You can do fun stuff.  Yes, even moats and waterfalls with suspended walk ways

 

Remember, rendering is not really my 'thing'.  But I do it to capture the project feel.  I do enough to translate the idea, but I dont sweat the details too crazy so dont be too critical of rendering  

 

[ProPlan_2011]

What did you use to render?

 

WIsh I could live there but probably not pay for it 

[VisualDandD]

29 minutes ago, ProPlan_2011 said:

What did you use to render?

 

WIsh I could live there but probably not pay for it 

 

I am using TwinMotion2022.

 

I dont spend too much time in the rendering.  Do most in chief and then I pull in and just make it look pretty in TM.

They guy who's home it will be is a big car nut.  We have bonded over cars since I am as well.  I am not against brown nosing ;-)   So I dropped a few easter eggs in.

A 959, a 930 and a GT3RS.   They fit will with the home!

 

 

[VisualDandD]

When you are really trying to earn some points!.....

 

 

[jtcapa1]

Beautiful. Well done Justin.  The design looks like a great example of the current modern style.  Makes it easier to work from home if your home looks like work. :-)

 

Can we just ask CA to put pivot doors in X15?

[ACADuser]

16 hours ago, jtcapa1 said:

Beautiful. Well done Justin.  The design looks like a great example of the current modern style.  Makes it easier to work from home if your home looks like work. :-)

+1

[ACADuser]

Justin

How did you do the seamless glass railing?

I'm working on a modern style too.

[DRAWZILLA]

52 minutes ago, ACADuser said:

Justin

How did you do the seamless glass railing?

I'm working on a modern style too.

Try these guys, they do glass railing and have all the details and the ICC report.  https://fhc-usa.com/ for a seamless look you might check out the base shoe type (achieve model).

[ACADuser]

Thanks for the link Glenn. Perry.

Sorry about that

 

[glennw]

Alan,

That was Perry who posted the link.

Frameless glazing can be done with a solid glass panel railing.

Newels have No Material assigned.

Fine tune from there.

I have been out of touch for a while but I think glass railings down here have to have a top rail - usually a small aluminium C section.

In which case, just add a top rail.

[ACADuser]

Thanks for that Glenn & Perry.

I corrected the post above.

[DRAWZILLA]

we are not required to have a top rail here but depending on the local codes, but a base shoe is a must. It all needs to be engineered