wjmdes Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Is there a setting to make the first (or last tread) even with the platform it connects to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_stuart Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 You should be able to set this in the Advanced Options in the stair DBX (see image). Keep in mind that the Top is actually the top of the uppermost riser, not the tread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjmdes Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 8:51 PM, steve_stuart said: You should be able to set this in the Advanced Options in the stair DBX (see image). Keep in mind that the Top is actually the top of the uppermost riser, not the tread. Expand That does not do it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_stuart Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Hmmm, it seemed to work for me, maybe someone else can shed some light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 You can do it..but you may have to get out the big stick and beat Chief to death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 @wjmdes - What @solver said above. If you have a runner you will probably have to remove it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 As Eric illustrated but didn't very clearly state... You have to set the height manually. Notice that he had to uncheck Auto Heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 You will find that this method will give undesirable results with the railing. I'm not aware of an easy fix for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjmdes Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 This is with a 2X12 joist, with a 2X10, there is not a whole lotta nailing space:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 3:06 PM, wjmdes said: This is with a 2X12 joist, with a 2X10, there is not a whole lotta nailing space:) Expand A quick google search of "stair to deck connections" would show many appropriate connecting methods that resolve the 'nailing' issue. Just the thought of stair stringers end nailed or toe-nailed to a rim-joist is cringe-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 3:06 PM, wjmdes said: This is with a 2X12 joist, with a 2X10, there is not a whole lotta nailing space:) Expand I usually use some variation of this general idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 https://www.strongtie.com/deckconnectors_decks/lsc_connect/p/lsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjmdes Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 3:14 PM, Alaskan_Son said: I usually use some variation of this general idea... Expand The strap @robdyck posted works, but luckily I have been doing 2X12 rim Boards on decks anyway, cause it does not meet Simpson's criteria with a 2X10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 3:23 PM, wjmdes said: The strap @robdyck posted works, but luckily I have been doing 2X12 rim Boards on decks anyway, cause it does not meet Simpson's criteria with a 2X10. Expand That's right, and even with a 2X12, the rise would be limited to 7 1/8"...not quite enough for some installations. There are some fairly simple methods to add material below the rim joists in order to provide increased backer material. Easy enough to detail if necessary, but no doubt each carpenter may have their own preferences. Michael provided one nice example that's very simple to execute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Or...the stringer could continue up under the main platform and rest on the beam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 5:21 PM, DzinEye said: Or...the stringer could continue up under the main platform and rest on the beam. Expand ^^^ even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 9:08 PM, Ridge_Runner said: ^^^ even better Expand On 7/23/2020 at 5:21 PM, DzinEye said: Or...the stringer could continue up under the main platform and rest on the beam. Expand Although, it looks like it would require a bit o' thinking ahead. That's not a skill that has been evenly distributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/23/2020 at 11:51 PM, robdyck said: That's not a skill that has been evenly distributed. Expand You making Fun of us Builders ? I usually drop the Rim Joist lower ie use 2x12 at the stairs if 2x10 joists and add a 2x6 under the top tread between the stringers as well and attach it through that with Structural Screws, absolutely no toe nailing of stringers ever...that is asking for trouble.... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 12:04 AM, Kbird1 said: You making Fun of us Builders ? Expand Definitely not 'us builders', it's 'those builders'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 12:11 AM, robdyck said: it's 'those builders'! Expand Good save! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 12:11 AM, robdyck said: Definitely not 'us builders', it's 'those builders'! Expand That's alright then , but I am unfortunately well aware of some of the work down by "Those Builders" M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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