Arcadian Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Hi All, Just started using X11 and sending floor plans for level 1 and level 2 to same layout sheet, but when in Layout, both floors are of the same level, and when I try changing the level on one layout plan, both change, so can't seem to show 2 floor level plans on 1 layout sheet... I'm obviously having a senior moment, so can someone out there guide me in the right direction ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Sorry All ! Senior moment sorted (duh !) Not telling :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Arcadian said: Sorry All ! Senior moment sorted (duh !) Not telling :-) Well you are the 2nd or third person today , so maybe you should M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Hi Mick, Just went through the scenario again with a new plan and layout, and the same thing happened. Send 1st floor plan to layout. Go back to plan and change to 2nd floor. Send to layout. The 1st floor on the layout changes to 2nd floor. On the layout sheet, went back to the 1st floor plan (now showing 2nd floor), clicked on plan and opened object. in the plan view specification box there is an option to adjust the linked saved plan. Adjust that to none and that opens up the current floor box below for adjustment. adjust to floor 1 and the 1st layout plan goes back to floor 1 and the 2nd layout plan remains at floor 2. It sounds like a long way to make this happen when it used to be automatic on X10, so am now wondering if there's something I missed on the initial setup, or in preferences somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkwest Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Did you save the second floor as a new plan view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, Arcadian said: Hi Mick, Just went through the scenario again with a new plan and layout, and the same thing happened. Send 1st floor plan to layout. Go back to plan and change to 2nd floor. Send to layout. The 1st floor on the layout changes to 2nd floor. On the layout sheet, went back to the 1st floor plan (now showing 2nd floor), clicked on plan and opened object. in the plan view specification box there is an option to adjust the linked saved plan. Adjust that to none and that opens up the current floor box below for adjustment. adjust to floor 1 and the 1st layout plan goes back to floor 1 and the 2nd layout plan remains at floor 2. It sounds like a long way to make this happen when it used to be automatic on X10, so am now wondering if there's something I missed on the initial setup, or in preferences somewhere... It seems to Work the Old way for me if the Plan View Dropdown is set to None before I start Sending to Layout , otherwise it uses the Saved Plan View Setup for the Layout Box too , which you then need to set to None. I can't remember if I added the Plan View Dropdown with customise Toolbars or if it was there but here is mine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Many ways to deal with this such as not using a Plan View ("None"), creating multiple Plan Views (one for each floor), etc. but the key is to understand what Plan Views are, what they remember, and how to manage them. Here's the easiest solution in my opinion though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 Yep, that fixed it. Thanks for your help guys. Appreciated as always.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I still don’t get the hubbub about plan views. Other than when a specific reference floor is necessary I just use anno sets and send to layout. Am I missing something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkwest Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I would say you are missing out on the greatest invention since sliced bread if you’re not using plan views to your full advantage. Next step would be to get saved plan views to recognize individual room labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, parkwest said: Next step would be to get saved plan views to recognize individual room labels. I’m curious as to what you mean by this and how you’re thinking of using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Michael_Gia said: I still don’t get the hubbub about plan views. Other than when a specific reference floor is necessary I just use anno sets and send to layout. Am I missing something else? Like you in X10 I didn't play with them much but a thread earlier this month , had me rethink things and I am now using a Save Plan View for each of my Annosets ( which are linked to a matched Layerset) , very easy to set up, and now I use the Plan View to Switch Annosets instead. To setup, just Open each annoset (which opened the Layerset too for me) Then Save a NEW Plan View with an Appropriate Name , you can then delete the CA default ones if you want to? Some of the advantages are it also saves Zoom level, Floor ( so you can Copy a SPV and set one for each Floor ) Colour and a few other things other than just the Reference set. This thread is probably worth a Read: https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/21188-layout-layer-sets/?do=findComment&comment=172544 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Thank you! I’ll check that link out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 One nice feature of plan views is that more than one can be open at a time in its own tab so switching between electrical, then foundation, then roofing no longer requires closing one Anno set, opening another etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkwest Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said: I’m curious as to what you mean by this and how you’re thinking of using it. Assigning elevation cameras and plan views by room... ie, kitchen, master bath... so, no matter where you place the kitchen, your views are correct... set up your template and go to work on your 3D model while the computer pastes your views to the layout automatically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, parkwest said: Assigning elevation cameras and plan views by room... ie, kitchen, master bath... so, no matter where you place the kitchen, your views are correct... set up your template and go to work on your 3D model while the computer pastes your views to the layout automatically. Huh? I don’t quite get that. If you move your kitchen from one wall to another then your camera is looking at a blank wall. Isn’t it? I do wish we could rotate the cameras at least and reposition them for each new plan. That way we can at least keep the Camera View Name ans all we would have to do is re-dimension the elevation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 12 hours ago, HumbleChief said: One nice feature of plan views is that more than one can be open at a time in its own tab so switching between electrical, then foundation, then roofing no longer requires closing one Anno set, opening another etc. You can also switch Saved Plan Views using its drop down menu which is my preferred method. Just as easy to switch views and only one tab required for plan view. I may also have the layout and several cameras open which leads to a lot of tab clutter if multiple plan views are also open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 hours ago, parkwest said: Assigning elevation cameras and plan views by room... ie, kitchen, master bath... so, no matter where you place the kitchen, your views are correct... set up your template and go to work on your 3D model while the computer pastes your views to the layout automatically. Interesting. That's pretty out there, you're definitely thinking outside the "box" haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Chrisb222 said: You can also switch Saved Plan Views using its drop down menu which is my preferred method. Just as easy to switch views and only one tab required for plan view. I may also have the layout and several cameras open which leads to a lot of tab clutter if multiple plan views are also open. True but that simply replicates the previous Anno Set behavior which is cool - was trying to point out a benefit of Plan Views, but only if it makes things easier. Come to think of it I don't think I have a bunch of tabs open at once, probably old habits that are hard to break... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, HumbleChief said: True but that simply replicates the previous Anno Set behavior which is cool - was trying to point out a benefit of Plan Views Actually, switching Saved Plan Views using the drop down provides all the functionality of saved plan views, more than just annotation sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chrisb222 said: Actually, switching Saved Plan Views using the drop down provides all the functionality of saved plan views, more than just annotation sets. Yes, good point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Chrisb222 said: I may also have the layout and several cameras open which leads to a lot of tab clutter if multiple plan views are also open. I use multiple monitors. I open sections, 3D views, reference items, etc. on other monitors; that helps keep the tab clutter down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisb222 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Ridge_Runner said: I use multiple monitors. Me too. I have ALDO, Library Browser and two different browsers open on the second. NEED. MORE. MONITORS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chrisb222 said: Me too. I have ALDO, Library Browser and two different browsers open on the second. NEED. MORE. MONITORS! That's as bad as watchin a Tennis Match sitting on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge_Runner Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Chrisb222 said: NEED. MORE. MONITORS! I thought about going Joe's route and getting a 55" 4K but my office arrangement wouldn't support that size very well. The 43" works very well and I may try to rearrange to go to a 55" instead at some point. With my office, two 43" may end up being the sweet spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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