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Waterfall Counter Top?

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Would like to create one using a cabinet, can it be done? Slabs is easy but would like to use a cabinet if possible? Or best method perhaps?

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I've found a custom counter top and p-solid sides to be the best solution.

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Thanks Kevin, I've always used p-solids as well but hate chasing 3 parts around, size resize etc.  Found a way to do it with cabinets, is there a better way?

 

 

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Open the DBX, toe kick 0", no separation, framed base cabinet

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26 minutes ago, MarkMc said:

Open the DBX, toe kick 0", no separation, framed base cabinet

Thanks Mark

 

With your plan how would you get 2" sides?

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Change default separation to 2" in box construction of that cabinet. 

Note there is always a residual artifact across the bottom of the opening, flutters in standard view and I think it shows in vector if memory is correct. 

If that is troublesome AND accurate dimensions are not needed in a schedule you can increase the height by an inch then lower the cabinet into the floor. 

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1 minute ago, MarkMc said:

Change default separation to 2" in box construction of that cabinet. 

Note there is always a residual artifact across the bottom of the opening, flutters in standard view and I think it shows in vector if memory is correct. 

If that is troublesome AND accurate dimensions are not needed in a schedule you can increase the height by an inch then lower the cabinet into the floor. 

Awesome Mark thanks so much!!

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Not a cabinet, but a symbol. Easy to resize.

 

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Many many many ways to go about this but here's my take on one of the quickest and easiest to use methods...

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Watertop example.plan

 

The 2 side pieces are cabinets that are essentially nothing but a tall countertop.  I placed them onto their own layer so the display could be adjusted and I excluded from schedule.  Flexible, easy to keep track of, and very simple to adjust as necessary.  Just add to your library or toolbar for quick future use. 

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Michael NAILED IT. Give that man some points.

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Of course one could always place a couple of slabs (or cabinets that behave like slabs) next to a cabinet and always appreciate any input but I was looking for a way to create a waterfall counter using just a single entity, much more flexible and adjustable IMO.

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19 hours ago, MarkMc said:

Change default separation to 2" in box construction of that cabinet. 

Note there is always a residual artifact across the bottom of the opening, flutters in standard view and I think it shows in vector if memory is correct. 

If that is troublesome AND accurate dimensions are not needed in a schedule you can increase the height by an inch then lower the cabinet into the floor. 

I thought I posted something else in this thread but it got lost. Mark, I could not get this technique to work. I only got wider front filler pieces but nothing that filled all the way back like a panel.

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Interesting - I was trying to create just the waterfall counter top without any cabinets for a pretty unique situation (homeowners wanted to slide a table in and out from under the counter top) and didn't want to use 3 pieces (of anything) to do so and found a few limitations but found a way to get it done BUT, when trying to create a waterfall counter top with 'drawers' it turns out there's no way to use separate materials on 'panels' and 'drawers' so the method fails, unless you want to have a soap stone drawer front.

 

Wonder why Chief would link panels and drawers to the same material and leave doors to their own separate material?

 

I'll explore a little further.

 

Custom doors/drawers separates the materials and results using just a single cabinet with panels seem acceptable.

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49 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:

I could not get this technique to work. I only got wider front filler pieces but nothing that filled all the way back like a panel.

Larry attached is another plan if you need to fill in the inside edge. I was thinking cabinets would cover it.

Set side to "Side panel inset" left and right separation to 0"

Specified a custom slab  door panel on (left side). Symbol is set stretch zone for total height, width at 0, depth stretch planes are set outside the depth of the object (-5 and 5) to prevent the depth from resizing. Origin is moved to be 3/4" from the face.

IF you need different thickness legs

then you need to generate a new symbol first.I included 3 on the plan-1.25", 2" and 3" They will size with the width of the symbols but the depth remains constant.

 

42 minutes ago, HumbleChief said:

turns out there's no way to use separate materials on 'panels' and 'drawers'

Can be done- I included a waterfall cabinet combination in the plan. I'd never do what you are after this way -too much work not enough control. I'd use the water fall as one piece place cabinets and force the top over them with point to point or Transform

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Waterfall counter3.plan

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BTW- I really like your idea of not having to use separate pieces for the counter- at least that's how I'm going to be doing them in the future in particular since I now have them in the library .:)

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20 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

And if that wasn't enough help :)    you apparently forgot to check the KnowledgeBase too :

 

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-02936/creating-a-waterfall-countertop.html

Actually checked there first but didn't want to use that technique - wanted to use a single cabinet instead of 3 pieces which is why the question was posted as it was.

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I'm still liking the symbol. 

 

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4 hours ago, DMDesigns said:

I also offer a video on how to do this - as a member of ChiefTutor.com it can be found here: http://www.chieftutor.net/waterfall-kitchen-island.html

 

I also show the ways you can insert a sink into the top. 

 

ENJOY - 

Dave

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... I got all excited thinking it was going to be a free video from your most wonderful website.

One of these days I'll sign up.

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1 hour ago, solver said:

I'm still liking the symbol. 

Certainly has advantages for reuse- gets rid of those pesky bottom strings.

waterfall 2.calibz

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