HumbleChief Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Would like to create one using a cabinet, can it be done? Slabs is easy but would like to use a cabinet if possible? Or best method perhaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kMoquin Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I've found a custom counter top and p-solid sides to be the best solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Thanks Kevin, I've always used p-solids as well but hate chasing 3 parts around, size resize etc. Found a way to do it with cabinets, is there a better way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 here's one way Waterfall counter.plan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Mark how do you get the bottom piece to go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Open the DBX, toe kick 0", no separation, framed base cabinet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, MarkMc said: Open the DBX, toe kick 0", no separation, framed base cabinet Thanks Mark With your plan how would you get 2" sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Change default separation to 2" in box construction of that cabinet. Note there is always a residual artifact across the bottom of the opening, flutters in standard view and I think it shows in vector if memory is correct. If that is troublesome AND accurate dimensions are not needed in a schedule you can increase the height by an inch then lower the cabinet into the floor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 minute ago, MarkMc said: Change default separation to 2" in box construction of that cabinet. Note there is always a residual artifact across the bottom of the opening, flutters in standard view and I think it shows in vector if memory is correct. If that is troublesome AND accurate dimensions are not needed in a schedule you can increase the height by an inch then lower the cabinet into the floor. Awesome Mark thanks so much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Many many many ways to go about this but here's my take on one of the quickest and easiest to use methods... Watertop example.plan The 2 side pieces are cabinets that are essentially nothing but a tall countertop. I placed them onto their own layer so the display could be adjusted and I excluded from schedule. Flexible, easy to keep track of, and very simple to adjust as necessary. Just add to your library or toolbar for quick future use. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneK Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Michael NAILED IT. Give that man some points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Of course one could always place a couple of slabs (or cabinets that behave like slabs) next to a cabinet and always appreciate any input but I was looking for a way to create a waterfall counter using just a single entity, much more flexible and adjustable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 19 hours ago, MarkMc said: Change default separation to 2" in box construction of that cabinet. Note there is always a residual artifact across the bottom of the opening, flutters in standard view and I think it shows in vector if memory is correct. If that is troublesome AND accurate dimensions are not needed in a schedule you can increase the height by an inch then lower the cabinet into the floor. I thought I posted something else in this thread but it got lost. Mark, I could not get this technique to work. I only got wider front filler pieces but nothing that filled all the way back like a panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 Interesting - I was trying to create just the waterfall counter top without any cabinets for a pretty unique situation (homeowners wanted to slide a table in and out from under the counter top) and didn't want to use 3 pieces (of anything) to do so and found a few limitations but found a way to get it done BUT, when trying to create a waterfall counter top with 'drawers' it turns out there's no way to use separate materials on 'panels' and 'drawers' so the method fails, unless you want to have a soap stone drawer front. Wonder why Chief would link panels and drawers to the same material and leave doors to their own separate material? I'll explore a little further. Custom doors/drawers separates the materials and results using just a single cabinet with panels seem acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 49 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: I could not get this technique to work. I only got wider front filler pieces but nothing that filled all the way back like a panel. Larry attached is another plan if you need to fill in the inside edge. I was thinking cabinets would cover it. Set side to "Side panel inset" left and right separation to 0" Specified a custom slab door panel on (left side). Symbol is set stretch zone for total height, width at 0, depth stretch planes are set outside the depth of the object (-5 and 5) to prevent the depth from resizing. Origin is moved to be 3/4" from the face. IF you need different thickness legs then you need to generate a new symbol first.I included 3 on the plan-1.25", 2" and 3" They will size with the width of the symbols but the depth remains constant. 42 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: turns out there's no way to use separate materials on 'panels' and 'drawers' Can be done- I included a waterfall cabinet combination in the plan. I'd never do what you are after this way -too much work not enough control. I'd use the water fall as one piece place cabinets and force the top over them with point to point or Transform Waterfall counter3.plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 BTW- I really like your idea of not having to use separate pieces for the counter- at least that's how I'm going to be doing them in the future in particular since I now have them in the library .:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, MarkMc said: I'd use the water fall as one piece place cabinets and force the top over them with point to point or Transform Waterfall counter3.plan Like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMDesigns Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I also offer a video on how to do this - as a member of ChiefTutor.com it can be found here: http://www.chieftutor.net/waterfall-kitchen-island.html I also show the ways you can insert a sink into the top. ENJOY - Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 And if that wasn't enough help you apparently forgot to check the KnowledgeBase too : https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-02936/creating-a-waterfall-countertop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 20 minutes ago, Kbird1 said: And if that wasn't enough help you apparently forgot to check the KnowledgeBase too : https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-02936/creating-a-waterfall-countertop.html Actually checked there first but didn't want to use that technique - wanted to use a single cabinet instead of 3 pieces which is why the question was posted as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 hours ago, DMDesigns said: I also offer a video on how to do this - as a member of ChiefTutor.com it can be found here: http://www.chieftutor.net/waterfall-kitchen-island.html I also show the ways you can insert a sink into the top. ENJOY - Dave ... I got all excited thinking it was going to be a free video from your most wonderful website. One of these days I'll sign up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 2, 2017 Author Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, solver said: I'm still liking the symbol. Good option me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, solver said: I'm still liking the symbol. Certainly has advantages for reuse- gets rid of those pesky bottom strings. waterfall 2.calibz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 10 hours ago, HumbleChief said: Actually checked there first but didn't want to use that technique - wanted to use a single cabinet instead of 3 pieces which is why the question was posted as it was. Cool , just figured you hadn't seen it since it wasn't mentioned anywhere... KB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 On 6/2/2017 at 2:54 AM, ShaneK said: Michael NAILED IT. Give that man some points. Thanks Shane. That's very kind of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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