MarkMc

I have had trouble with this on occasion but usually worse conditions than these. I have always managed to fix it. Not sure the difference but this worked right out of the box. Wonder if it could be resize about? grid snaps? I set my snap grid distance to 1/2" often then turn the grid snaps off. Anyway plan attached if you want to check for differences. It's from a fresh X12 template btw, changed wall fill colors for this. walls align.plan

Use Build, Cabinet Filler. They are no longer in the cabinet drop down menu (I use hotkeys and never the auto fillers) FWIW I never make side panels less than 26 so counter doesn't stick out. Usually more to allow scribe for plumb and level...and always make the over fridge cabinet 24 deep with tray dividers. (yeah most things fit in 18 but the few that need 24 this becomes the best place and cost difference is nada)

Select, open object, what is it? Can only guess without plan, a block?

Check your sun settings, no issue with sunlight? .

If you have the 3D symbol why not just use CAD block management and insert the block? Explode, set to line color by layer, do whatever you want with the fills.

Two ways using two cabinets, make sure that auto fillers are off. Just saw you are on X9, sorry plan is in X12- attached it anyway-maybe get a trial or download the X12 viewer. One is two angle front cabinets, the other is two standard that overlap. If you need it really clean then do what Eric said and build it from parts or create a symbol. I don't remember if you can have 0" separations in x9-they are used to do what I posted.

Most often I'm using plot lines, no color fill, with edge line defaults and pattern line defaults checked. Update manually as needed- I use hotkeys and will most often be updating the entire layout when I'm done. Though for one or two elevations I let them update when closing.

Maybe, maybe not. Imagine that you needed to open a dbx for every door and every window and make multiple changes-not fun. For cabinets I find it best to avoid needing to go in to the dbx as much as possible. To avoid it I use a combination of dynamic defaults; replace from library for cabinet config, for parts drag items like hardware, doors etc onto the cabinet in 3D and set as default;... ....but better still is the new style palette feature. Want a 4 drawer cabinet with hardware set at different depths, a 3 drawer with framed lower drawers, a double oven instead of a single and microwave-just a single click. I've begun converting a lot of the cabinets I kept in the library to style palettes. The great thing about those is that you can edit the specs to be copied while still in the library. I set them to only copy face items to start with but open and add items to copy at will though. Combined with what I mentioned above it's a game changer.

Place in your plan loose, then you can open symbol and add to library. Might want to set Z to 0 when working just so you can see the axis.

Tested what you have with a simpler panel option-works just fine. Did you perhaps check height planes? Else dunno.

I always have to copy msi files to the desktop to get them to work some setting somewhere I always forget to look for.

Make an annotation set with the defaults you want, then have that selected before doing detail from view. Or use it when creating a new detail from scratch.

No idea about the other plan but worth noting. Opening the camera at the bottom takes north of 50 seconds to get to a missing file dbx, then slogs again if those are not altered. BUT IF you go into plan materials, purge, then merge the few remaining duplicates then open the camera at the bottom it takes a tad over 7 seconds including getting out of the missing. file DBX. Oddly the file size grows?? Delete the robe from the purged file and the time drops down to 4 seconds. All times are after closing Chief and reopening.

Drop the soffits that you used to make sloped beams by 3/4". Delete the soffit along the window wall. Copy and paste one of the sloped beams. Move it against the fridge wall, resize it to the depth of the soffit you deleted then drag it along the window wall. That will fix all but the soffit over the fridge. I'm not sure about that one but the first issue is the roof planes above have a hole in them and don't meet properly. Fix that and then work on that other soffit. Might need to make it from a psolid to get what you want but that won't work with the roof and hole in the wall behind it.

Chopsaw answered this already. I just wanted to add to Alaskan_Son's excellent advice on using the Help. The answer to this question was found in a few seconds since I already had help open (often the case) That was found using the search function in Help, a lot more efficient than a web search unless you've run into a quirk (in which case I just search the forum) I open help when working on something I don't do a lot or when having a bad CRS day. Note that the search tab stays open to the last search even when the main window opens to contect sensitive help (as Michael described) also note drop downs for your help history and instant access to Chief Web support for those who want a video, Guess I should have pointed the arrow at where you click instead of to the web so click under the text to open the web (CRS)

Open symbol, options, inserts into wall, set depth. It will frame as well.

I see Mick noted this and I got a message from a friend at Chief that the ALDO was added to Interiors Version in X12. OTOH didn't realize that wall material regions are NOT included, surprising. Win one lose one ;-> I understand what Michael suggests, and personally think everyone should bite the bullet and get Premier....BUT from what I know after 20yrs dealing with KDs I'm not sure that whole list applies to most. BOTTOM LINE- Majority of KDs- Typical project is a single room, mid range cabinets or lower (the conglomerates?), occasional custom cabinet, sell 2 or more kitchens a month on average? zero interest in being a power user (what's that ? -Interiors will suit your needs just fine. You get great stability, renderings, ease of use, and final drawings. The first project I did in Chief Interiors involved an entire house so you can still move upward (combined with some other software for that). You can always upgrade; just remember that is a bit painful$ when you do. The other 20%?- multiple rooms per project, collaborate on new construction, design full remodels, upper middle to full custom cabinets, fewer projects, higher dollars, maybe want to be a power user? Premier (and stay on SSA !) used to it's fullest you can to attract more. (IMO if in this group and not using Chief well....)

Just checked the comparison chart-two other things-Ruby scripting is limited. I don't know what that means but I would not be happy. Also you can't use reference display of other plan files. I'd mentioned that we no longer need a CAD mask to show existing structure on demo plans earlier but the method to do that is referencing another plan. That only matter if you are ever moving walls or doing additions. It just depends on what you do, how you work and where you want to go.

I'm saying there are two features that matter. Yes I think they are worth the difference but you need to decide, it's your $$. Is your trial version Premier? or Interiors? IF it is Premier look at the ALDO, then turn it off and work without it. CAD detail from view- While we no longer need it to do as builts go and search the forum for some of what Alaskan_Son says about using detail from view and see if it is something you need. In the PDF files I showed you all of the detail cabinet drawings that needed to be sent to the MFR were done using it. Sure you can work around it. The rest you won't miss all that much. With the current sale Premier costs what Interiors usually does. Upgrade later and you are likely tacking the upgrade cost on top of SSA.

The things you list will all be the same for both. The difference between the two versions is less than it once was. The two biggest things missing from interiors that I see are ALDO- the active layer display. There is another way to deal with that, just not nearly as efficient.(caused the only client I had on Interiors to upgrade) CAD detail from view. Most useful if you need to send drawings of custom cabinets but has other less obvious uses for productivity. I started with Interiors back when the difference was greater. When I first realized it was a mistake for me I'd already used the difference elsewhere since. Took a while to budget the upgrade. I've never regretted upgrading. Support costs the same for both.

I try to limit needing to drill down or to click around multiple places. To that end, like others, the majority of my work is in the user library. Things I do I rarely copy an entire folder from elsewhere. The ones I do have are things like lines, fills, walls; items that rarely change and I likely want most of the folder. limit nesting of subolders as much as possible-one level cuts down on rummaging. Since most of my work is remodel and interiors I have a lot of categories that others might not have and those are where I need to go most often. So there is a folder "structure" with the typical sub-folders for working on that-doors, walls, window etc. I could see doing the reverse if I were doing mostly new construction; having the interior related folders as subfolders to keep them out of the way until needed. When the majority of my work was for the public I took to setting up a folder per project. All the possible options for the job, likely to change, were kept. As much as possible all defaults were specified from that folder. If something changed it was added there before being set as a new default. When changing defaults Chief will always head to that folder first. Any symbols created or adjusted for the project are also kept there to speed up using "replace from library" since it's at the top of the list. Nowadays most of my work is for a few clients so a slight change was needed to that. There is a folder for each client that has a few subfolders for what they use most and client specific custom symbols. Then another folder per project. Make those folders go to the top of the list by renaming them with spaces at the front of the name. (F2, home, space, space). I use "import defaults" often for clients and this helps. The original defaults were set from one of these folders, when making changes in the defaults DBX Chief automatically opens to that folder, even if that folder was renamed. I make or alter a lot of symbols. Since we can't specify what folder those go to when adding to the library they always end up at the bottom of the user library. I always have a folder (or a few) with a name starting with Z. I can quickly clear out what is not categorized yet into that folder and can also get to the bottom of the list quickly by selecting any User folder and typing "Z" (just make sure it is not set to rename before typing damhikt Last and perhaps most important is avoid letting things get out of hand. I'm in the process of clearing, cleaning and re-arranging a bit of a mess caused by custom symbols and it takes forever to sort those.

Yes, you will need to make 3 custom door symbols. Actually you can make just two-top and the middle. Then copy the top one and flip it in the open symbol DBX, rename it. I'll put something together a little later if you need more.

Here are the critical settings in the dimension default being used for that. You can locate other objects as well if need be.

The system I describe above would be based on cabinet label, height and width-also included in the schedule. The top row height is just for safety/reference though it could likely be used in the look up. Copy the schedule, paste into the the template-associated cells would do the look up would read in adjacent cells the sizes. It could even give you rails and stiles. Specials would have to be edited and the lookup could be set to specify that in the adjacent cells based on the S in the label. Until Chief gives us an attribute/collection for opening sizes in Ruby I would not trust anything other than manual take off. But as I said learning and setting up lookup arrays to begin with takes a lot of time unless you are already familiar with them so only worth the effort if sufficient volume is required. There is also the poor man's version of Cabinet Vision- eCabinet. I believe a few folks on here use that.in conjunction with Chief though I've never tried it. Back when I did this there were a couple of free or really cheap simple cut list applets out there.

So I when I built cabinets it was a one man shop most of the time, so volume was small. I could do sizes for a kitchen in well under an hour. (When I built other things there was a fluctuating staff so I was responsible for setting all dimensions, often to more severe tolerance than cabinets.) IF running a shop with say half a dozen workers and one person responsible for dimensions which is best practice. IF the volume warranted some automation to get the size of face items then I'd - use a schedule have an OIP filed for top drawer height set in the default note any cabinet that was off with an S prefix then set up a spreadsheet template using lookup arrays That would give completely accurate sizes for 90-95% of cabinets and indicate that any cabinet designated Special needed to be adjusted. You already need to enter appliance opening sizes manually so add those to an OIP field when you look them up. A lookup array will be far easier to manage and create than what would need to be done using Ruby unless ALL your reveals are identical. Now learning how to do that in a spreadsheet can be a bit daunting but not nearly as daunting as Ruby IMO having done both. There is another problem with the ML. When doing hi-end cabinets, and you get around to hacking them to be correct in 3D, you will end up with "doors" that are not doors since that is the most useful item to hack a cabinet with.