MarkMc

Sweet.

This is a bit fussy but works (I don't do well with 3d Plines). Make a regular molding p-line, convert to a symbol. Open symbol and rotate as needed. Sizing and placement are annoying, trial and error.

I've been getting more crashes in X8 than I did before. Actually I started noticing them in X7-vrashes were extremely rare before that. (it is also possible that upgrading from 8 to 8.1 is a factor but I can't remember when I did that. I know it messed with my Widi connection to a tv?) Not reproducible-sent a few in. Happens most in elevations, second in 3D, rarely in plan. At first it appeared to be related to symbols I made but nope, then I thought it might be a system resource thing. I'm not well behaved about opening things and tried to isolate it to specific programs but then noticed getting them when nothing much else was open except for email. I do always have many tabs, often multiple plans and a layout. Mentioned while at KBIS and they suggested that I allow the reports to send in. It's not totally awful or anything, just not what I was used to. (still better than 2020 by a few light years) I have noticed that a lot of temp files get generated. So I started to use an applet that 2020 has to delete temp files and that appears to help when I remember to click it. If I keep the total down below 100 that appears to help.

Feel free to take me up on Larry's offer;). My answer is if you possibly can get Premier. Thanks for the kind words Larry.

You may well be right Michael. That had not occurred to me since I never use that config. The cabinets in that toolbar do NOT follow ALL of your default settings, only some. Pretty much making that unusable for kitchens.

Don't know if this helps- I believe with the advent of Optimus in Nvidia cards the ports all run through the on board card. Mine are but I run multiples ok. At 1920 x 1080 I have my 24" monitor on a DVI port. If I run it on the DisplayPort it gets laggy. I can run a TV on the HDMI. The third monitor is a DisplayLink that connects to a USB port. I had to set the DisplayLink software to use the Intel card but never have any problems with it. Overall I get an occasional crash but that does not appear to be related to which monitor- seams more to do with symbols, temporary files, plan, total overhead or the pilot. Attached are my settings in Nvidia. Showing the ports are all on the Intel GPU, Global settings set to use Nvidia card (I also set this in Windows power options), Then of course Chief set to use the Nvidia card. Note I always stay completely away from the Intel settings dbx. I also use UltraMon but that opens up Windows settings for the displays if I need to get to them. I doubt that matters, just makes managing windows on monitors easier. If all else fails DisplayLink has adapters -might be worth talking with them? Another note- I'm on Windows 8.1 I was running the TV off a Microsoft wireless HDMI dongle using Intel Widi when the machine was running Win8. That stopped working with the showroom TV on upgrade, though it works at home?? Mention it cause issue could also be related to the OS?

Nah-it's why we have this forum, if it was easy...

Graham you can do that in Rich Text- the screenshot is of a single RT box using varied typefaces.

Can also change typeface in Rich Text. (kerning is not available)

I don't see a listing that shows anything in Interiors that is not in premier? Wasn't that way when I upgraded from interiors. Screen shot of cabinets in the core library in premier. Note that I never ever use any of these. They do not follow the plan defaults which I use to govern what brand, construction, and style I'm working in. I've gradually built up several of my own cabinets for various brands in the user library, using the cabinets that do follow default settings. I have these all set with each brands specific labeling per item, and have also made it so that any modification can show in a schedule. Grabbed and assembled some shrunken images off last weeks plan for reference.

Someone smarter than me has to answer most of your questions. I do kitchens and other cabinetry- remodel and new construction, and provide demo, new and electric plans, limited framing needed for what I do. I also have to supply drawing to cabinet companies showing openings. I started with Interiors and quickly found that I needed Premier. The things that I find make a difference (and worth every penny) are CAD detail from view, annotation sets, and the project browser. CAD detail from view gives me a way to make dimensioned drawings of cabinet openings easily. Prior to having that I was either adding lines all over OR exporting to a seperate CAD program and bringing it back. CAD detail from view also helps with drawing "as-built" to layer under plans. Project browser just speeds up work. Annotation sets to control what I see, what gets dimensioned (like only wall cabinets, only base cabinets, etc) and have simpler work environment. That one alone I think is worth the cost.

Yeah, it's a work around- top is what Chief does with a standard corner cabinet that is inset- it is WRONG.

I'm with you Dennis- back at machine. I see that shelves can't be set on corners. Setting them before changing to corner cabinet has no effect on the shelf depth of the final corner cabinet. Tested several flat panels (framed doors from drop down, custom doors with 1/8, 1/4. 3/8 thick panels) all the same result- I have not been able to get shelves to show through corner cabinet door in overlay. (guessing here but you are using overlay correct?) Not sure what the difference is with what you have and what I did so I got nuttin for ya, sorry. (post the plan?) I stand corrected- just managed to get them to show using perspective floor overview. From pretty high so not something I often do. Would be nice for those of you who do need that kind of view that shelves could simply be turned off in the ALDO. I doubt most building folks are going to muck with changing shelf defaults. I CAN get them to show through (in really extreme POV) using inset cabinets. I'd guess there are camera placements that may be worse than others. The shelf thing has been reported in the past- response was something about Z fighting and the gist was nothing was likely to happen. That being the case I changed my defaults. Guess the reason I haven't run into this lately is all of my base corners don't have shelves since I always place a susan, and I rarely use diagonal wall corner cabinets. More of a problem for me (and why I'm guessing you are using overlay since you don't mention it) is how a pie cut corner cabinet shows if using Inset. Chief adds two extra stiles to the center-nothing like reality-top is Chiefs, bottom is work around.

I set the default shelf depth for all my templates back,(and all in user library) which helps make less work to fix. Haven't run into the corner cabinet thing, will check into it. When at machine. Did you try changing to custom front? Think in x8 the shelves are grayed out if it remains default front?

Did you just drag them in? If you drag in 3D files they come in as 2D blocks AFAIK. There are quite a few cad blocks in your plan (go to CAD block management) If you want them as 3D -import as symbol.

Zip the file should work to upload. Are those already in your plan? just guessing here but there are quite a few CAD blocks in it-all are 2D.

Weird, send it in when above water.

Doesn't browsing to the new file "reload" it?

Glenn, that was meant to be at the end of my comment, couldn't actress edit function from phone so added that. No reference to your post.

In that same layer set

Of course. Perhaps I misunderstood.... but turn a layer off in a layer set and it is off until you turn it on. Changing annosets won't turn it on.

Not exactly- Annoset A is Uses layerset A- turn off layer Q off while layerset A is active and it will remain off in Layerset A- regardless of the annotation set you use. You have altered layerset A. Where it starts to work is that while Annoset A uses layerset A which shows Layer Q- Annoset B Uses layerset B, which does not show layer Q But that alone isn't the answer you are looking for.... Why annosets will do what you need is that they allow you to have various dimension defaults, and each default can use it's own layer to govenr the view of those dimensions. i.e Plot plan uses -plot plan layerset AND uses "Plot plan dimension" defaults which place dimension on Dimensions Plot plan when working or sending to layout. Switch to Electric annoset- uses electric layerset (which does NOT show plot plan dimensions), uses "electric dimension" defualts which creates dimension on the Dimension Electric layer (which does not show up in Plot plan layerset) They do more than that but it's a start.

The OOB annosets already are set for Framing, Plot, electric and HVAC dimensions on their own layers with their own layerset. Just use the annoset to switch layers instead of the layer control-it's an easy start.

Michael- these most often are open at the back of the fridge space- front matches back gets you that.

Oh then there is the issue of getting the little puppies in. The attached is for a Sub 48 Pro in a NYC apartment. I had told the client well ahead that he needed to talk with the appliance people, that it was likely they would have to remove the compressor to get the fridge into the apartment. Someplace along the way some bozo decided to make the installers life easier and made this as a single cabinet- because they could. Alas the molding on the outside of the doors in the hallway line up and make it just a smidge impossible to get the thing to the doorway. So the bozo will be cutting it in half this Thursday and replacing the top panel after it's reassembled- coulda had a V8.