MarkMc

Like Michael I usually just note it- I also add a CAD detail as typical. IF you really must make one in a frameless cabinet in CA here is one way-library with example attached. A framed cabinet will have an appropriate recess. edited to add-note that it will be incorrect in the cabinet schedule since the height is cheated. recess bottom wall cabinet.calibz

You can change the overall width of the bow but Don't change the width in the individual window dbx just the height, and casing width there. If you change the component windows to more than some mysterious magic number it will do what you are seeing. I've not found a way around it. I settle for a decent look and accurate overall width of the bow.

I'll try it thanks

Not sure why it's not working for you. Attached, placed window, sized the bow side to side, checked options off, then-tabbed to open one window, changed casing size, height, and got rid of sills. You aren't using a bay instead of a bow are you? Those are more of a problem-still can get close but harder.

check connect outer casing. If you need more adjustment after that tab to open one of the windows.

Temporarily change the door to a doorway, take a detail from view, dimension the detail, put back the door.

Thanks, support suggested the programs to me as well. I told them that I doubt that because: the problem is not persistent, it's happened on two plans so far (one brand new in X8) but no others. the first time I opened a new plan in Chief to make sure things were being copied and was able to paste into it no problem. what has been running on the machine has been the same at all times I'm pretty sure that during the first instance I tried shutting down everything else, which would be SOP for me, and tried again. Never worked until I closed and re-opened chief. I haven't installed 2020 yet -may not I'm going to keep it in mind and keep an eye out if it happens again, I expect it will. I'm also going to rummage around for something to log what is going on. I think I can find something over at System Internals, just have to figure out which one to try first. I have a hunch that if it is another program I stand a better chance of finding out which when the problem is happening since it is not at all consistant. FWIW-brand new factory clean install of Win10 with drivers only. I have turned off all of the data collection junk but haven't gotten to completely setting up the machine. Here is what loads at start up. Maybe we overlap with something odd? The only one of these that I have ever had issue with is Logitech and that was back a ways with a different driver.

tools, layout, edit layout lines-is that what you're looking for? icon should be the there too

Do you have grid snaps turned on? That can do it.

Just happened again- brand new plans. Close and reopen Chief solved it. Not reproducible by tech so far.

If you search back a little you will find a few people using the Surface pro fir what you are considering. There are other options for light and thin available. Should be more over the next couple months with new GPUs coming. The first ones are expected to be in gaming machines. I only use a laptop, needs are different, so I decided against thin and light for now. Found some useful information wading through the forums at notebook review.com (lot of gamers but others mixed in). Xoticpc.com carries several brands of gaming machines, good place to compare. (there's a 3-1/2 lb Asus that looks sweet. Razor has a few nice light and thin machines.

I had to close and re-open for it to work. Tried for half hour late so, then was on phone with tech support for a while and nada. Reopened the original plan before I sent it in and the problem remained. Only the save as got to working.

I tried it with Bluebeam and Chief-both were fine.Have no idea.

Scott got it to work without reboot. The plan I renamed wouldn't work, then closed it. Reopened it and it worked. Checked the original no working plan and that still did not work when I reopened it. Zipped it and sent it off to your folks to play with-I spoke with Michael on the phone so sent it to him since we had such a grand time about it all Bottom line is I'm up and running.

Well I'm known for that.

Weird-two plans, likely started in X7. Copied from second plan-first plan would not let me paste. Opened new plan-paste fine. Tried different objects-no paste. Tried to save as for the offending plan, still couldn't paste into it. This is all on new machine, new install, Win 10. I got around it-first did an edit area and copied the plan that I could not paste into and pasted that into a new plan. This was while waiting on the phone for support. Then after getting off the phone and going about packaging up the plan to send in. I decided to open it again-presto works now. Any ideas? ever run into this? I hope it is not something I run into more but ...

Yeah still there. They did fix the toe kick on the clips though and I'll take what they did to cabinet sides over fixing this 10 days out of 7. OTOH I discovered a much easier fix. -shift select the cabinet and block it-the clips will be persistent. You can block the cabinet with clips, block then tab the block to open it and add clips-doesn't matter if a cabinet is already next to it or not- the clips will show up (on all 4 corners though) It does not solve the issue of having clips on one side with a range on the other but hey...can't always get what you want.

I used to really want snaps to openings, now not so much. The only advantage I see to the snaps now would be that they would be live. That is taken into account in the workflow now though. I really don't think I will give up how I use the details even if it is implementd. I prefer working in the detail to pasting it back. If I need to make changes I can have each, detail and elevation open on different monitors. I mostly use the second method with the lines only when first setting up manufacturer templates so we can check them live, and once in a while I use a couple of lines on an elevation to check and quickly adjust an odd cabinet. In both cases I'm often up against the way Cheif does reveals as opposed to manufacturers. If I want it elevation/3D in Chief to match what will be built I often have to switch to traditional overlay and fudge separations. That means that when it comes time the openings will need some work anyway.

Unfortunately, you can't snap dimensions to those things. There are two ways to get there. 1-If you have the cabinet configured correctly you can use a CAD detail from view. I usually copy the cabinets in question to another room, remove the doors and then do a detail from view-you can snap to the openings there. To simplify the view I have a layerset with everything but cabinets turned off. 2-If you need to get the opening right in the first place. For horizontals-in an elvation-draw a line, open it and check lock, length angle. Go down to Start point y position and set that to a know height. Don't forget to add in for the floor since this doesn't measure from the finished floor but from the sub floor (to make life simple I have my floor structure set to 1" for all room types-at the very least change Kitchen and Bath type rooms to match the rest- OOB default is 7/8") Once you have the line set at a know height use transform replicate/copy to create lines at the openings. You can snap to these. Vertical lines are a little harder since they don't want to snap to the cabinets in elevation?(thought they used to?) Easiest way to get a starting line is just draw a vertical, do an end to end dimension, select the line, click the dimension when cursor changes to a hand and set to "0". Now use transform replicate/copy to add lines to snap to.

Thought he didn't want the entire monitor mirrored just one window/app.

Really? I've been using it for years-XP, Win7,8,8.2 and now 10 without issue. What is it doing?

We've been using "backup entire file" to zip. Not ideal but easier than replacing stuff. Just got a MyCloud hoping that makes things easier but haven't had time to get it up and running so don't know.

ultramon will let you mirror a sinle app https://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/

Just checked the new machine, layout and two plans, two elevations and one perspective open in CA-zero at idle. - at idle is zero.

Yes Graham the good news is- and the bad news is-the same