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You can also get to it through the Defaults. Double clicking a tool is a shortcut to the relevant location in Defaults.

D dot, Yes, Frankfurt is about 16,500kms from Sydney. We left Prague this morning - Thursday at 9 am. We get back to Sydney on Saturday morning. No hotels - travelling ( and waiting in airports) all the time!)

D dot, Chief has a full height corner pantry (it's the same shape as requested) I am suggesting using that and reducing it's height to match the lower cabinets. You would probably need to use a custom counter top. Actually, after reading Dennis's post, you can probably just place a lower cabinet in a corner, size it, and then move it.

D dot, Yes, I did see the posts from Antoine. And yes, we are a bit closer to the Seychelles than you (10,000km v 18,000km), BUT it's still a long way - not really "close". Jennie says "hello".

D dot, I believe a framing layer HAS to be main layer to generate framing? I believe that you can define a wall layer as framing, but the framing will not build unless that layer is a main layer? As, usual, I could be completely wrong as I am working from memory - (I am sitting in Frankfurt airport on my way home).

Could you use a corner pantry and change the height? I wish I had Chief with me as I am just guessing without giving it a try.

Without the plan I'm not 100% sure that I understand the problem. Is there any reason why you can't define the wall as one wall instead of a furred wall? Specifying a wall as "no room def" may help if you can't move walls - but then, I am talking off the top of my head as I don't have the plan and I don't even have access to Chief at the moment.

Curt, No problems. Yes, that was the setting I had in mind. I knew that setting was there somewhere, but couldn't remember where, or what it's exact name was without access to Chief. I hope it solved your problem

I don't have access to Chief at the moment, but there is a setting somewhere called something like use cad text style or similar. It could have a completely different name, but you will know when you find it - probably in text defaults. Maybe it is set differently for each Chief version.

Barton, My rule is pretty simple. Always add cad and text in the elevation view. Delete cad in the layout view (because you can't delete it in the elevation view anyway).

You can't fix this automatically. I usually resort to a hatched poly line for the whole room instead of using the auto room hatch.

I don't have access to Chief at the moment as I am travelling. But what you describe sounds like a ceiling line. Ie, a change between a flat ceiling and a sloping ceiling. It is on it's own layer.....maybe Ceiling Break Line or similar.

And, what's really cool is that you can do it in 3D. No need to edit in plan and then view in 3D - just edit the tops of the walls in a 3D view.

Use the Break tool to break the roof edge and then use the roof handles to shape as you want. You could probably use the Make Parallel tool to do just that.

"Edit Wall Layer Intersections" should do it.

You should be able to find it on theEdit toolbar. It has been there since X6 came out.

Bruce, There are two types of grid. The Snap grid and the Reference grid. You need to turn them both off.

No, you can't show contours in a 3D view. Bill's idea of using sidewalks sounds interesting. You can build a stepped or terraced terrain (as opposed to smooth terrain). This gives the effect you get when you build a physical model out of layers. No need to mess around with poly line solids though, you can do it with the terrain tools. Instead of drawing elevation lines, draw a Terrain Break at each contour. Place a single Elevation Point between each Terrain Break and assign an appropriate height to each point. I am travelling at the moment and don,t have access to Chief, but you may have to use Linear and change some other settings. Have a play and see what works. It would be a great feature to be able to display contours in 3D over the smooth terrain.

Mark, I am disappointed that you don't think it is a workaround. If it wasn't a workaround, Chief would have a command for it! Lew is right. Chief should be aware of every possible thing that we want to do (even the obscure ones) and we should have it now, in this version. We shouldn't have to follow any steps - it should just happen. And, oh yes, we want the program to stay simple and easy to use - no choices or options - Chief should just know what we want to do. Lew, tell us all again how you were a programmer for 30+ years as that seems to make a big difference. Did you even try out the method I described? If so, did you find it overly complicated or confusing? Is it something that you have ever needed or wanted to do?

Fix what Lew? Is something broken?

Try this. Select the object. Shift select it again. Convert it to an Architectural Block( on the Edit toolbar). Open it's dbx. On the General tab, there is a section titled Schedule and Material List, check Schedule and Material List and then check Cabinet. Generate a Cabinet Schedule. Open the schedule and down the bottom of the General tab under Objects To Include, check Other. The object will now display in the Cabinet Schedule. It sounds a bit convoluted, but only takes a couple of seconds, and avoids the export/import.

Lew, We can already control what floors are included in a schedule.

You need to close Chief before zipping.

Or just use the zip facility with W7. Right click...Send To...Compressed (zipped) folder. It's all I have ever used without problems.