X17 - Can't change foundation height anymore? wtf?


Michael_Gia
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Hey, no matter what I set my basement ceiling height or floor level or stemwall height, my stemwall won't budge?

 

Are we not able to affect floor 0 anymore?

 

What am I missing?

 

Cross section:  I was hoping the 4'-6" would change to 24" or something close to that? 

Stemwall doesn't budge in the cross section view no matter how I change ceiling heights, of stemwall height in either floor 1 or 0.

 

Am I missing something obvious, like a check box or do I need to cast a spell and tap my heels 3 times?

 

Either a bug or I suddenly forgot how to change stemwall heights?

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Floor 1 room dialogue box:

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Floor 0 room dialogue box:

 

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34 minutes ago, MPDesign said:

did you rebuild the foundation after setting to 24"?

 

What does rebuild foundation mean?  I don't use auto rebuild.

It should adjust when I adjust the floor or stemwall height?

I tried changing the room names from unfinished to living room, but no luck.

 

Thanks for chiming in so quick.  I'm cramming to get something out this weekend before I leave on vacation.  Looks like I'll be bringing my laptop with me....

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Is there more than one room above?  And if so are you opening the room below to change the stem wall height? 

 

I believe you can't change the stemwall height from a room above's dbx due to the presence of multiple rooms.

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i dont use auto build foundation as it then deletes everything in the basement, and I adjust stemwalls frequently to match the basement foundation height

 

Adding +24 to stemwall in floor 0 defaults works on my template plan(which has a basement):. image.thumb.png.ca30d56e4753ad3699fd9181ab23e750.png

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so not sure what the issue is, unfortunately, maybe post the plan. My guess it has something to do with the "no change" that shows for the ceiling (multiple rooms with different heights as John indicated)

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12 minutes ago, SHCanada2 said:

so not sure what the issue is,

 

You made me go back and check one more thing...

 

I had accidentally checked the box for "Floor supplied by the foundation room below", in my frantic messing around.

 

Open the DBX, close the DBX, open the DBX, close the DBX.

 

Wish we could affect these parameters and see the changes live rather than the idealized representation in the Dialogue box side window.

 

My fault, but Chief has a pretty arcane way of working this stuff out.

 

my apologies.

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On 7/19/2025 at 12:47 PM, Michael_Gia said:

Open the DBX, close the DBX, open the DBX, close the DBX.

 

 

Yes I don't think we'll ever get away from opening DBX and closing DBX and opening and closing.... I wonder if there is any group of software users who open and close more dialogue boxes than us Chief users? Bet we're ahead by a lot because nobody does it like that anymore...

 

I set up a hotkey for my 'f' key to open the dialogue box. I figured it was the easiest keypress (left hand home row index finger doesn't get much easier than that) and a button on my mouse for 'enter' so at least I can open and close them efficiently...

 

Haven't made the jump to 17 yet but was hoping for better controls over basement stemwall heights.

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On 7/19/2025 at 12:47 PM, Michael_Gia said:

 

You made me go back and check one more thing...

 

I had accidentally checked the box for "Floor supplied by the foundation room below", in my frantic messing around.

 

Open the DBX, close the DBX, open the DBX, close the DBX.

 

Wish we could affect these parameters and see the changes live rather than the idealized representation in the Dialogue box side window.

 

My fault, but Chief has a pretty arcane way of working this stuff out.

 

my apologies.

I don’t understand why this behavior is not clearly communicated in the X17 Dialog Help.

 

This type of setting fundamentally overrides user control, yet the interface does not make that relationship obvious. As a result, I spend hours troubleshooting what appears to be a malfunction, when in reality the software is behaving as designed.

 

Clearer communication within the dialog or help documentation about when and how control is overridden would significantly reduce confusion and lost time.

 

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On 7/21/2025 at 2:22 PM, kylejmarsh said:

 

Yes I don't think we'll ever get away from opening DBX and closing DBX and opening and closing.... I wonder if there is any group of software users who open and close more dialogue boxes than us Chief users? Bet we're ahead by a lot because nobody does it like that anymore...

 

 

Very true statement

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15 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

I think it is, 
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I’ll be honest, I read that Help text several times and it just didn’t click for me.

 

In my head I was trying to fix wall behavior in the Room dialog, so I wasn’t connecting that setting to what I was seeing. Since the description focuses on the floor platform, it didn’t lead me to think it would affect the walls or that unchecking it would fix the issue.

 

I didn’t realize that with that option checked, the floor and related foundation pieces are being taken from the room below, so changes I was making in this room weren’t having any effect.

 

That’s where I got tripped up.  Thanks for pointing this out, now if I can remember it going forward :blink:

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2 hours ago, DefinedDesign said:

Thanks for pointing this out, now if I can remember it going forward

ironically I just got tripped up by this yesterday, I have to remember, which I dont,  that in order to make the stem wall rise above the floor in the attached garage, (And for the Stem wall top to to to actually show up as editable in the dialog)  I need to check the room supplies floor for room above. Ironically I clicked on the help, hoping it would tell me how to get this to show up in the dialog, but I did not see it.

 

Of course I hear people saying, just use a pony wall. Sure but that is more complicated...and I was almost to that point when I went back to check an old plan and did the old "compare the differences" excercise

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