Hammer7 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Good morning, I'm trying to find the handle on centering my dimensions on the interior walls. The exterior is working ok and I edited the defaults but my interior walls keep locating to surfaces. Is there an overriding instruction that is keeping the program from locating the wall centers for the interiors. Also I have tried this multiple times so my interior dimensions are generating multiple measurements. Do I close and reopen the plan to change this? GUERINNI-PLAN_April_8.2020.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 You just need to manually drag an extension line to the center and with a bit of accuracy! It looks as though you may have chose the 'center option' after those dimensions were placed. The existing dimensions will have to fixed manually or replaced with new dimension strings. Also, make sure you are NOT using the "interior Dimension" tool. It is specifically for measuring the interior! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer7 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 The exteriors are fine, it's the interiors that are referencing surfaces and not centers despite centers being checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hammer7 said: The exteriors are fine, it's the interiors that are referencing surfaces and not centers despite centers being checked. Exactly which dimension tool are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer7 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 "Interior Dimension" under the little ruler icon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Did you read my 1st post? Don't use that tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Someone might know better...but, I don't believe manual dimensions will locate the center of an interior wall. However, Auto Exterior Dimension will located the center of interior walls that intersect perpendicular to an exterior wall. See attached; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer7 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Sorry Rob, I don't understand. What is it's purpose? The screen shot was created prior to your suggestion but regardless I still can's seem to make it work and it's behavior being controlled by the Default dialog I think I have some box checked or unchecked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdyck Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Did you read the help topic I posted? Interior Dimensions Draw Interior Dimension lines parallel to walls in plan view to create interior dimensions. The Interior Dimension tool locates interior wall surfaces only. It does not dimension between layer surfaces in the same wall, and it does not locate walls unless it actually intersects them. Interior Dimensions locate either wall surfaces or the Main Layer, depending on the settings in the Locate Objects panel of the Dimension Defaults dialog. See Locate Objects Panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer7 Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Reading now, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, SNestor said: I don't believe manual dimensions will locate the center of an interior wall. Yes it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, tommy1 said: Yes it will. Show us how... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, solver said: I probably don't understand ... Your post seems to suggest you do understand...how about enlightening us all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 There are separate defaults for: Automatic Exterior Dimensions Automatic Interior Dimensions Manual Dimensions etc. You need to make sure you have all dimensions defaults set the way you want them before creating dimensions. You also need to make sure you are using the correct dimensioning tool. Generally the Automatic Dimensions will provide the most consistency - especially if you are wanting to dimension to interior wall center lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, solver said: I believe your example shows exactly what I said above. You will only get a dimension to the centerline of an interior wall if the wall intersects with an exterior wall...as per your video example. Yes? No? OK...I stand corrected. You have to use the end-to-end dimension tool...and then it will dimension to the center of an interior wall. But - if you use the interior dimension tool...it doesn't. Weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 minute ago, solver said: Seems to be Yes. You are so helpful...thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 This seems to be about as good a place as any to ask this question... especially of you builders out there: Do you really want to see a plan dimensioned to wall centers? I've only ever built plans I dimensioned myself, and from my building experience I feel like wall center dimensions would be a PITA... no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpadge Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Back in the days of drawing by hand, we drew 4" walls and dimensioned to the center - that was how builders wanted them. In todays world od CAD, it really makes more sense to use actual wall widths (3.5", 5.5" etc) and therefore dimension to one side. However, 13'-6" center to center, is the same, plate to plate, so it really shouldnt be a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I did a video...please someone tell me if I've missed something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Rpadge said: However, 13'-6" center to center, is the same, plate to plate, so it really shouldnt be a big deal. Very true...but the plans I've ever seen usually dimension strings start from outside of exterior wall to interior wall centers...and then throw in a plumbing wall and at least to my brain it gets more complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DzinEye Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, SNestor said: I did a video...please someone tell me if I've missed something. Looks to me like you laid that to rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, DzinEye said: Looks to me like you laid that to rest I was hoping so...a video is worth a 1,000 posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_Gia Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, SNestor said: I did a video...please someone tell me if I've missed something. I just wanted to reply to something you said in your video regarding why anyone would use centre dimensions on interior walls. Two big reasons why most plans show the centre is that the centre won’t change even if the wall thickness might suddenly change. Also for walls to line up with support beams and columns, that definitely can vary at any moment, again the Center measurements will not change. Things always line up properly. You should always use center measurements. You’re playing with fire if you don’t. Your carpenter is well versed in splitting dimensions of 2x4’s, 2 x6’s etc. It should be second nature to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Michael_Gia said: I just wanted to reply to something you said in your video regarding why anyone would use centre dimensions on interior walls. Two big reasons why most plans show the centre is that the centre won’t change even if the wall thickness might suddenly change. Also for walls to line up with support beams and columns, that definitely can vary at any moment, again the Center measurements will not change. Things always line up properly. You should always use center measurements. You’re playing with fire if you don’t. Your carpenter is well versed in splitting dimensions of 2x4’s, 2 x6’s etc. It should be second nature to them. 45 years in wood frame construction...never saw a framer dimension to the center in my life. Must be a regional thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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