TonyMM Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hey all, I'm having trouble figuring out how to add some color detail into the footings of my slab foundation similar to how you can add color to a stem wall. Is it even possible? The foundation plan is too minimal for my liking. Thanks for the help. CA X10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Yes that is a little bland. You could manually add a colored fill pattern by drawing a polyline solid with a couple of polyline solid holes and then convert to plain polyline when you are done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Wha5 about the wall hatch tool. Once the hatch patten is 5here, you can change the fill. inhav3 not tested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMM Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, Chopsaw said: Yes that is a little bland. You could manually add a colored fill pattern by drawing a polyline solid with a couple of polyline solid holes and then convert to plain polyline when you are done. Do you think it would be best to do this in Layout or Plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopsaw Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You could likely do it in plan or layout but plan sounds like the best option to me. Could not make the wall hatch tool work for footings or mono slab Scott is there a trick to that ? Wha5 is up wi5h your k3yboard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I could also suggest that there are too many dimensions here. For example, dimensions between footings at the interior slab are odd, as they may cause the footing dimension to be off. (Usually the footing width is the critical dimension.) If you were to only use critical dimensions -- mostly on the outside of the slab -- the drawing would be a lot cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You can add a custom pattern to your 'wall type' if you want to fill the footing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You can even make it real 'purdy' if you like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just a side note after looking at your plan. You might want to check with local codes and a local engineer. That foundation wouldn't pass here in Houston. The spans for the interior beams to the perimeter grade beams are too far apart. If the interior beams stop in the middle of the slab as shown, you might need to have piers. I've never done or seen interior beams stop like that but I know things are different from place to place. I don't know soil conditions or slab thickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, tommy1 said: Just a side note after looking at your plan. You might want to check with local codes and a local engineer. That foundation wouldn't pass here in Houston. The spans for the interior beams to the perimeter grade beams are too far apart. If the interior beams stop in the middle of the slab as shown, you might need to have piers. I've never done or seen interior beams stop like that but I know things are different from place to place. I don't know soil conditions or slab thickness. Pretty sure those are just footings on the mono slab and they can go wherever needed, at least here in CA, when pouring a mono slab with footing. Also pretty sure the question is about coloring that slab not its structural integrity, but I could be missing something... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, HumbleChief said: Pretty sure those are just footings on the mono slab and they can go wherever needed, at least here in CA, when pouring a mono slab with footing. Also pretty sure the question is about coloring that slab not its structural integrity, but I could be missing something... Yes, this was about color not structure integrity. Just a comment I was making. I have a meeting with the engineer tomorrow and will ask if this is acceptable for stopping an interior beam in the middle of a slab in Houston. Just never seen it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, tommy1 said: Yes, this was about color not structure integrity. Just a comment I was making. I have a meeting with the engineer tomorrow and will ask if this is acceptable for stopping an interior beam in the middle of a slab in Houston. Just never seen it here. Curious, do you ever color or texture your slab/footings? I don't, and to be honest never knew one could... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy1 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Larry, if you're asking me, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, tommy1 said: Larry, if you're asking me, no. THX... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 12 hours ago, Chopsaw said: You could likely do it in plan or layout but plan sounds like the best option to me. Could not make the wall hatch tool work for footings or mono slab Scott is there a trick to that ? Wha5 is up wi5h your k3yboard ? chop, I was guessing it was possible, I could not make it work... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You can get the walls for mono slabs to display by setting the wall(s) to use a different Pour Number than the room they define. The wall fills only disappear if the pour numbers match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I have always used a p-line with a fill and put it in the back,, for remodeling the new footings always have a fill to tell the difference from new and existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, DRAWZILLA said: I have always used a p-line with a fill and put it in the back,, for remodeling the new footings always have a fill to tell the difference from new and existing. That's what I do too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMM Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thanks everyone. To note, its a slab foundation. Stem walls shade quite easily in CA. The questions lies around adding color to the footings of the slab foundation. I'll try the techniques given above. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMM Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 14 hours ago, Richard_Morrison said: I could also suggest that there are too many dimensions here. For example, dimensions between footings at the interior slab are odd, as they may cause the footing dimension to be off. (Usually the footing width is the critical dimension.) If you were to only use critical dimensions -- mostly on the outside of the slab -- the drawing would be a lot cleaner. I agree, our Planning Director here in Sonoma seems to be trying to meet a quota of added nonsense each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMM Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, tommy1 said: Just a side note after looking at your plan. You might want to check with local codes and a local engineer. That foundation wouldn't pass here in Houston. The spans for the interior beams to the perimeter grade beams are too far apart. If the interior beams stop in the middle of the slab as shown, you might need to have piers. I've never done or seen interior beams stop like that but I know things are different from place to place. I don't know soil conditions or slab thickness. The interior footings were automatic due to carrying load bearing walls. And yes, this plan was sent off yesterday to structural. Soil conditions are perfect for growing grapes! Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said: You can get the walls for mono slabs to display by setting the wall(s) to use a different Pour Number than the room they define. The wall fills only disappear if the pour numbers match. Michael, That works and looks OK in plan view, but what it really does is separate the footing from the slab, ie, it is no longer a mono slab, but rather a slab sitting on a footing. So that in section view and auto detail, etc, you get a separate footing independent of the slab. Before auto detail: (same pour on left, different pours on right) After auto detail: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 3:21 PM, glennw said: Michael, That works and looks OK in plan view, but what it really does is separate the footing from the slab, ie, it is no longer a mono slab, but rather a slab sitting on a footing. So that in section view and auto detail, etc, you get a separate footing independent of the slab. Before auto detail: (same pour on left, different pours on right) After auto detail: Ya. Pick yer poison I suppose. Either add polylines and manipulate as necessary with any changes to plan or Auto Detail and polyline union. The latter seems a little more efficient to me for many situations though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMM Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 Just to close this topic; After much tinkering, I realized that the scale of the concrete fill was too large and once I reduced the scale it was able to show. Suprisingly simple....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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