CENTEXBS Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I have win 7 pro and was running CA 9.5/9.0 Experienced crash and cannot reinstall CA 9.5 Decided best time to upgrade. Want to upgrade from CA 9.5 to most recent version. Read post stating that new versions such as x10 will not run projects designed with older version. A lot of money to spend with a bad result. ls it really true? Some posts stated x8 would be the best choice. Of course CA will not sell you x8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I wouldn’t worry about that too much. I’m sure someone with an in between version would be willing to help you bring your plan(s) forward. How many plans we talking here? If it’s just a couple, I’m sure myself or someone else would be willing to help for free. If it’s a whole bunch, I’d be inclined to charge a fee for my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I think you have it wrong. Newer versions will read older versions (within limits - you would need to confirm how far back X10 will read). Off the top of my head, I think X10 can read back to V9 - as long as they are .plan files and not .pl files. Older versions will not read newer versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, glennw said: I think you have it wrong. Newer versions will read older versions (within limits - you would need to confirm how far back X10 will read). Older versions will not read newer versions. The OP is correct. X8 was the last version that could open pre-v10 files. In order to use those files in X10, a person has to first open and save in s pre-X9 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXBS Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys. I have several hundred projects. Most are completed, but I would like to use as references. I believe from what Alaskan_Son said, I am leaning toward x8. Since I can not buy from CA, can someone comment on the downloads offered on YouTube? Glennw - They are .pl files. Edited April 22, 2018 by CENTEXBS Inform member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, CENTEXBS said: Thanks guys. I have several hundred projects. Most are completed, but I would like to use as references. I believe from what Alaskan_Son said, I am leaning toward x8. Since I can not buy from CA, can someone comment on the downloads offered on YouTube? I would really really encourage you to jump to X10. You don’t want to “upgrade” to an outdated tool. You’ll be missing out on a lot of valuable new features. Maybe you can find an X8 version for sale and then just upgrade. That way you’ll have both. Anyway, if you can’t find a copy of X8, it wouldn’t take all that long for one of us to move all your projects forward to X10 for you. I imagine I could do it in under a minute each if you hired me to do them all (or at least a large chunk at a time). Who knows, it might even go a lot faster than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, CENTEXBS said: Read post stating that new versions such as x10 will not run projects designed with older version. Michael, My statement about the OP being incorrect related to this statement, which is generally incorrect, which I went on to qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXBS Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Maybe I will try the free trial of x10, just to satisfy my indecision. Thanks Alaskan_Son All my projects are saved on memory sticks, and the plant where my machines(rollformers) are located has the 9.0/9.5 installed and working. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I would be suspicious of anyone selling X8 on Youtube , try the Offering Forum here on CT instead , there are several people selling X9 and X10 license too , just take care to check the upgrade Price and the transfer fees as you should get a deal or just buy x10 direct , if buying second hand you can check with CA to make sure it is legit and transferable to you too. If buying x10 direct I would ask Sales if they would convert your Files for you as part of the Sale..... this price is not really valid anymore since the upgrade now would be $1295 I think.... but you get the idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXBS Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Thanks Kbird1 - I was not aware of the Offering Forum. Will check it out and I was suspicious of the YouTube offers. You helped me decide. CA offers file conversions? Should at the current price for x10. Thanks to all again. I will be better off now by heeding the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJPotter Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I have old versions 7, 9,10, 11,12,13,14,15,16,17, 18, 19 and X10 running on my PC, I run Windows 10 x64 and XP 32 to support legacy versions. I am often called upon to help legacy users with plans. DJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 X10 will only read plans that were written by version 10 and newer so you will first need to convert your V9.5 plans before you can open them in X10. If you have already upgraded to X10, you should contact tech support during normal business hours to see if they can provide you with a solution to convert your older files. All you really need to do is get something like the X8 Client Viewer (or any other version of Chief from V10 to X8) and you will be able to open these older plans and save them in a format that X10 will be able to read. If you have not upgraded yet, you should discuss this with our sales team to see what solutions they can provide. Since your plans are so old, you should expect to have to do some amount of manual cleanup. We have worked very hard to make sure that when you bring plans forward that they do so with very minimal changes but when you bring plans this old forward you will have to deal with all of the minor changes that have happed over all of the versions you missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Dermot: would it be that hard to extract the routine from X8 that imports the older plans and make it available as a standalone product ? as a former programmer I doubt if it is that big a deal Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 CentexBS: try Ebay, older copier of Chief are sold there and most are covered by EBay's buyer guarantee before purchase verify with CA that it is a valid X4 - X8 license (skip X3 and earlier) and what the license transfer fee will be - it can range from $50 for primary license to $400+ for secondary license or student you can setup a search in Ebay and get an email whenever a new auction starts Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 We already have a standalone product that will convert these old plans. It's called the X8 Client Viewer and it should still be available at no cost. We currently have no plans to develop another product to do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 7 hours ago, lbuttery said: CentexBS: try Ebay, older copier of Chief are sold there and most are covered by EBay's buyer guarantee before purchase verify with CA that it is a valid X4 - X8 license (skip X3 and earlier) and what the license transfer fee will be - it can range from $50 for primary license to $400+ for secondary license or student you can setup a search in Ebay and get an email whenever a new auction starts Lew I'm selling my secondary and have the transfer paper ready to go. Fee is $900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Dermot said: All you really need to do is get something like the X8 Client Viewer (or any other version of Chief from V10 to X8) and you will be able to open Dermot, I am selling a secondary X10 license, been contacted by the OP. I have a copy of the X8 viewer. Can I legitimately also include that with the sale and transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I have a copy of the X8 viewer. Can I legitimately also include that with the sale and transfer? Mark: I don't see why not, its free to anyone - anytime Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 We already have a standalone product that will convert these old plans. It's called the X8 Client Viewer and it should still be available at little or no cost. Dermot: that is great news I will spread the news as other users run into the issue Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 If the X8 Viewer was made available Free to Download Originally why is it still not available for Download ? seems like a simple Customer Support option to me for these types of Issues. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Tech support was nice enough to point out that we already have a tech article that explains everything very nicely. The article also includes a link to the X8 Client Viewer that you can download and use for converting your legacy files. The tech article is here: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00279/opening-legacy-files.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, solver said: I've suggested that a bulk conversion routine would be helpful. Something that would run without user intervention, opening each older plan and saving in the new format. Sounds like something that could be done with a macro recorder, windows scripting tool, or Directory Opus script, or some such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Dermot said: Tech support was nice enough to point out that we already have a tech article that explains everything very nicely. The article also includes a link to the X8 Client Viewer that you can download and use for converting your legacy files. The tech article is here: https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00279/opening-legacy-files.html Thanks for the Heads Up Dermont , good to know as this seems to be something that comes up on the Forums fairly regularly , but it is a bit more complicated that most of us realized I think since the Viewer is a 120mb download.... M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 since the Viewer is a 120mb download.... Mick: the viewer can do a lot more than just convert plans it has most of Chief's camera and rendering features and dimensioning and markup tools and much much more Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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