MarkMc

Updated 2/28-added cabinet doors into schedule-one on it's own floating and example of it on a cabinet. Changed the corbel procedure-instead of specifying the symbol should be "inside" the cabinet I now embed the "holding cabinet" into where the corbel goes. This allows proper vector and watercolor views. Revised plan attached I finally found a way to get millwork into the cabinet schedule without using architectural blocks. Problem with blocks is the dimensions read based on orientation in the space and not on the object. It's a bit of a futz at first but I'm happy. Once set up the stuff can live in the library. Place the millwork in a new plan, convert to symbol _CABINET DOOR instead of millwork. You will have to work with the origin and stretch zones. Origin will vary if it is going in as inset or trad overlay. Then place a cabinet, futx with the dbx (most need to have opening for back and both sides) In 3d vector view I change the sides of the cabinet to "opening no material" Once cabinet is done save to library- can later add a different millwork door to it to save work. Plan shows a schedule, two millwork "doors" and a couple of cabinets using them for reference. Open all dbxs to get the idea. (no not doing a video) I also placed at the bottom of the plan what I've been doing to get moldings, loose accessories, touch up kits, toe kick etc into the cabinet schedule. These are also saved to the library for reuse. The Text callout is placed once and copied. Dimensions can be adjust to read properly but the quantities are off so I put that into the label. Bracket sch.plan

You can use feet as William has done and then add a molding to tie them together-bit of a pain to line everything up (vanity on left) Creates extra lines in vector views. Easiest is to grab a valance (Huntwood has a good selection)-copy to user library and add in stretch plane. Then drop them in the plan. (vanity on right)

You can change the size of the camera but it will be that size if active or not. Either in the camera dbx, or for all in the camera defaults. The good news is that has no effect on the size of callouts used in place of cameras.

I don't agree about drawing adjacent rooms-Box stores draw two walls, maybe 3. Establish a level of professionalism. The extra time invested to get length of two adjacent rooms, add a couple of walls and drop windows and doors in those base on photos (when look is all your after) can't add half an hour. Distracting? not according to my clients.

Our templates are centered around cabinet brands- top drawer and toe kick height, labels, box construction. FWIW all have a shell to start with, just a box. Drawing in walls etc is so fast in Chief that we always do adjacent rooms, just may not fuss with exact placement of windows in the living room or such. It's one of the advantages CA has, clients simply love it. What kind of problems are you having with elevations? Wall elevations are what they are click and done. I lean toward backclipped elevations for everything despite some drawbacks. They work well for islands though. Our templates already have elevations in them linked to layout template. If you're just doing an occasional kitchen it may not be worth setting them up. If you're going to do extensive kitchen work AND need complete schedules for ordering THEN it can be worth it and you should use X9. Other programs? I've got a bit of mileage (and a several $K invested) with the alternatives-none of them are worth the trouble/cost in my world. I now use Chief exclusively. Post what images or a plan of what you're problems are.

http://superuser.com/questions/961930/how-do-i-change-application-associations-in-windows-10

Go into Windows and change the association for. Calibz files

So explore I rarely do (or watch) vids. You'll just have to get those from someone else. I used to give more complete instructions (still too wordy IMO) and a rare vid until someone, Glenn I think, suggested somewhere that it may be good to let people actually get in and learn how the program works by doing.

1/16 wide and thick psolid located with the center tool in elevation using the settings shown. Snapping the final dimension takes a bit of fuss.

Use point to point move OR transform replicate to place accurately into a doorway or opening. You can override bumping by holding down the control key but it lacks accuracy.

In the plan is an architectural block with the trash AND a door-you can change the door style in that by unblocking it. First check the size on it though so you can adjust the new door. Place in a new plan and convert to a symbol If you want it to work as Davids open the his symbol to see the settings. IF you want it to work as a pullout- that is open or close (X9 only) then open the symbols symbols I placed in the plan to see the settings to use. WHEN you place it in a cabinet as a drawer symbol- the sides of the drawer box will initially be solid and block the trash pullouts. To see them material for the drawer box sides to "Opening" (no material) (I keep a copy in my user library, materials folder, and just use the eyedropper for that) It's a good idea to open DBXs for objects AND symbols to see what is going on so you can use do it in the future.

Until you get what you want-For casings there is a new feature in X9 that does something of what you ask for-you can drag a molding profile from the library onto an object in a 3D view and change it instantly. It doesn't have the options of by room or floor that you would find in the material or object painter but pretty fast for a room. Great for "Real Time". For more complicated configuration issues (custom millwork, lintels, etc) where defaults are not dynamic, I put one of what I need in the library and use "replace from library" in which case you can replace all that are identical (same size etc) -has some advantages

I stuck on in plan posted earlier on another thread- here there's one in there that functions as a drawer, in X9 can be shown open or closed , put a block there if you want to change door styles and a cabinet with it in -need to make the sides of the drawerbox no material. Has lids unlike the others but I just hacked it from the Rev-A-Shelf zip file of 3D dwg into SU. Too much to get rid of the lids since I never use top mount trash.

Updated plan file with double top mount trash -by istelf, in a block with a door, and as a drawer symbol for use with opening cabinets. rest is as it was. It's an X9 file.

I've run into the lack of autosave being there. I "think" that it's not new to x9. if I also occasionally save the plan then the auto works. Not at machine and relying on feeble memory. Have trained myself to have a twitch in left hand - hits ctrl+S. Once in a while I get distracted though.

Tip - in template, cabinet defaults, set shelves manually to less than "full" depth. Prevents them showing through doors.

A web search will find a couple of ways (free utility, registry hack...) to solve it. http://superuser.com/questions/466661/how-to-force-windows-to-save-desktop-icon-positions http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=faq-DesktopOK&faq=18 http://www.askvg.com/fix-desktop-icons-position-and-folder-view-settings-problem-in-windows-10/ I use UltraMon for multiple monitors let's me save desktop icons location and restore just in case they go wanky.

Checked, don't have same issues. PTP? Something out in space? Check mouse settings?

Shelagh -Thought about this last night. If you like I can set up an online meeting to show you what I'm doing for dimensions, schedules, final drawings, a few quirks... in Chief. I have a Zoom account that I don't use enough, so can use that. Might be a good kickstart for you? From the looks of my current schedule it would have to be the first week of February. I've noticed that there are several kitchen newbies on lately so if anyone is interested let me know chime in, if there is interest I'll post this as a fresh thread. I also know that there are a few experienced kitchen folks who just lurk here, would be great if they could join in. Would aim for an hour, ABSOLUTE max 2 hrs. You should at least have X9 on your machine even if not using it for production. It will be the most useful if using the Premier version but if using the Interiors version you're welcome but the most important things I use for final documents-(annosets, detail from view, Ruby, append text to dimensions, project browser) are only available in Premier.

I use Chief because it is infinitely more accurate than 2020 (see attached) There are a few instances where you have to work a little differently to get what is needed, but you can always get there. I was under the impression that you wanted to dimension to the side panel, no?. As noted-Using the DBX to add panels will only show in elevations and 3D views not in plan AND it will not "bump" to casings. Yeah that should be fixed. IF you want snap and bump then add a door to the side of the cabinet, select them both and make it an architectural block, that WILL snap to your casings. If you like that add to library. You can change the door style by "tabbing" into the arch block. (Personally I find it a pia so I deal with it other ways- you have several options) Attached a jpeg with a few details from an order, getting plans and elevations is easier. I just checked the other machine-2020 does NOT dimension to an added side panel. It does "sort of" bump to the casing but (on V9 last one I have) in plan the panel overlaps the casing while in elevation it does not-accurate?

Works for me in X9, check your layer settings?

Yeah like that. Not necessarily automatically moving or playing music, just for access?

Dimensions will change when you add return walls due to where the program calculates them from. I rarely if ever enter dimensions for each wall as I draw. Rather watch the temp dims, draw, then starting at one end, select wall, and change dims based on the temp dims that are now interior surface to surface (so long as you select in the right place Or I place some dimension strings and edit. Very fast, less frustrating.

Dan that's good news. Can the models sent to the online 3D viewer be embedded?

The file format itself won't change. Once saved in X9 it can't be opened by earlier versions.