MarkMc

Matt, Scott set up a GTM see thread

Not familiar with the home designer products but you can likely do the kind of thing we used to have to do. Float doors in place, or make shallow cabinet and force those to overlpa each other (transform replicate or point to point move overrides collision.) IOW you build it.

I'll contact a couple of people and see where that goes. Scott,lets post this as a seperate thread to see if we can't get some kitchen folks? Since you host and collect emails why don't you do that?

Sounds good Scott-I'm good to go and you're always a pleasant host:) so GTM it is. I'd hoped that some other kitchen folks might have some input too. I know you can swap presenters if need be. If anyone else is attending and has some good ideas for kitchen specific drawings please don't be shy.

No since there were no takers. How's Friday the 17th at 2 pm Eastern? I'm just waiting on a counter install date but they rarely do Friday. Maybe will post it over in the user group once we settle time. I use Zoom for multiple folks but if it ends up just the two of us Skype can work too. If anyone use GTM and wants to take over I'm ok with that too.

Till you get what you want I posted what I have for them in symbols. https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/12839-wolf-sub-stuff/

Saw someone asking for us to pester Wolf/Sub for a catalog. Here is what I have on my machine currently. Some are better than others. Don't know if textures end up missing? (let me know) These were either gotten from the 3d warehouse or as dwg from Wolf Sub that I messed with. (depends and can't remember) Enjoy till you get what your after.

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/products/3d-viewer/

I had a thought so tried defining trash pullout as an appliance in the hopes I could get the label to read it. It only works if it is the full height of a cabinet in which case it becomes the automatic label. Add a drawer to the cabinet and the automatic label reverts.CA does not provide any other way to access the information. So here is what I was able to come up with that works (and what doesn't) First two show the problem. The second two each use a different macro that collects info from the OIP. (which is why we place them in the library). This is NOT a preview of the macro I'm working on but the macro does include a way to add to the label reading from the OIP for very specific things. In this case you would change the code to whatever you use (RAS has roughly 125 different trash codes not counting mountings and lids making that up to you), change the comment to what you need as well -double trash, rev-a-motion, ...You can grab the macros out of the plan.

Then someone wants the sink base, the microwave base, the cute woven baskets, for the brand they have....Hey, I've been dealing with these issues since I switched to CA from 2020. I know Joe C is trying to write some sort of universal covers anything macro for cabinet labels. He handles Conestoga RTA cabinets so that may work out for you...or when I post mine you can adapt it. Sounds like what you supply is a lot like what I need to supply. Mine are not just for ordering, they are critical to installation even though I don't do RTA. Instead I'm telling the cabinet brand what I want, often specifying RAS/Hafele instead of what is listed in the catalog. They are also important for the customer who does not understand anyone's CODES, we supply a second floor plan with comments in plain English.

Gene-trash bin pullouts-we keep cabinets in the library with the correct order code for the most used of those that we have. NOTE that the code for those varies by brand AND that most brands offer several choices per catalog (brand for order I'm writing now has 4 in catalog and we use two not there, another brand has 5 for framed construction and 4 more for frameless). I never show them in plan, and until X9 I've never bothered to place a trash pullout into a cabinet. I only made the one I posted since I needed to show it open in 3D for an ADA kitchen. Almost all other interior accessories are line items on orders-when they are not the same issues of labels per brand as trash come into play. We list them as modifications placing the codes code field of OIP (used to be a headache in the components list) and in many cases something descriptive in the comments section. Again for many of the most common configurations we keep them in the library and use "replace from". I keep between 1 and 2 dozen cabinets in a brand folder in the user library. FWIW should someone give me a set of plans with just cabinet, accessory or modification codes and no ocmments AND the codes do not match brands that I carry (have in the past) those codes are useless. I've been working on learning Ruby to write a label macro for each of my brands that addresses the any "simple" cabinet configuration changes. (with a big thanks to Gerry T and a bit of discussion with Joe C who is trying to write something more comprehensive) The goal is that once done it someone could change it to suit another brand relatively easily without learning Ruby. For the modification codes we've worked out a system to drag and drop the codes from a separate document into the OIP field. Again per brand (each brand uses different codes and can number to 200 once all accessories are accounted for) Once this is all done, likely after final release, I'll post something into the tips section. I even think I'll break down and do a video (watch out for flying pigs:)

To cut the symbol in half -add a stretch zone that goes from then back to the center of the object, resize the depth to half what it was. Almost forgot- once done open the symbol again, block tab, generate block so it shows correctly in plan.

Bob- plan attached with both those options and a third with loose valances and the cabinet blocked. If you need to get the valances into a cabinet schedule that is a different issue. I just found a new way to do that which makes me happy-posted over in the tips section.

Updated 2/28-added cabinet doors into schedule-one on it's own floating and example of it on a cabinet. Changed the corbel procedure-instead of specifying the symbol should be "inside" the cabinet I now embed the "holding cabinet" into where the corbel goes. This allows proper vector and watercolor views. Revised plan attached I finally found a way to get millwork into the cabinet schedule without using architectural blocks. Problem with blocks is the dimensions read based on orientation in the space and not on the object. It's a bit of a futz at first but I'm happy. Once set up the stuff can live in the library. Place the millwork in a new plan, convert to symbol _CABINET DOOR instead of millwork. You will have to work with the origin and stretch zones. Origin will vary if it is going in as inset or trad overlay. Then place a cabinet, futx with the dbx (most need to have opening for back and both sides) In 3d vector view I change the sides of the cabinet to "opening no material" Once cabinet is done save to library- can later add a different millwork door to it to save work. Plan shows a schedule, two millwork "doors" and a couple of cabinets using them for reference. Open all dbxs to get the idea. (no not doing a video) I also placed at the bottom of the plan what I've been doing to get moldings, loose accessories, touch up kits, toe kick etc into the cabinet schedule. These are also saved to the library for reuse. The Text callout is placed once and copied. Dimensions can be adjust to read properly but the quantities are off so I put that into the label. Bracket sch.plan

You can use feet as William has done and then add a molding to tie them together-bit of a pain to line everything up (vanity on left) Creates extra lines in vector views. Easiest is to grab a valance (Huntwood has a good selection)-copy to user library and add in stretch plane. Then drop them in the plan. (vanity on right)

You can change the size of the camera but it will be that size if active or not. Either in the camera dbx, or for all in the camera defaults. The good news is that has no effect on the size of callouts used in place of cameras.

I don't agree about drawing adjacent rooms-Box stores draw two walls, maybe 3. Establish a level of professionalism. The extra time invested to get length of two adjacent rooms, add a couple of walls and drop windows and doors in those base on photos (when look is all your after) can't add half an hour. Distracting? not according to my clients.

Our templates are centered around cabinet brands- top drawer and toe kick height, labels, box construction. FWIW all have a shell to start with, just a box. Drawing in walls etc is so fast in Chief that we always do adjacent rooms, just may not fuss with exact placement of windows in the living room or such. It's one of the advantages CA has, clients simply love it. What kind of problems are you having with elevations? Wall elevations are what they are click and done. I lean toward backclipped elevations for everything despite some drawbacks. They work well for islands though. Our templates already have elevations in them linked to layout template. If you're just doing an occasional kitchen it may not be worth setting them up. If you're going to do extensive kitchen work AND need complete schedules for ordering THEN it can be worth it and you should use X9. Other programs? I've got a bit of mileage (and a several $K invested) with the alternatives-none of them are worth the trouble/cost in my world. I now use Chief exclusively. Post what images or a plan of what you're problems are.

http://superuser.com/questions/961930/how-do-i-change-application-associations-in-windows-10

Go into Windows and change the association for. Calibz files

So explore I rarely do (or watch) vids. You'll just have to get those from someone else. I used to give more complete instructions (still too wordy IMO) and a rare vid until someone, Glenn I think, suggested somewhere that it may be good to let people actually get in and learn how the program works by doing.

1/16 wide and thick psolid located with the center tool in elevation using the settings shown. Snapping the final dimension takes a bit of fuss.

Use point to point move OR transform replicate to place accurately into a doorway or opening. You can override bumping by holding down the control key but it lacks accuracy.

In the plan is an architectural block with the trash AND a door-you can change the door style in that by unblocking it. First check the size on it though so you can adjust the new door. Place in a new plan and convert to a symbol If you want it to work as Davids open the his symbol to see the settings. IF you want it to work as a pullout- that is open or close (X9 only) then open the symbols symbols I placed in the plan to see the settings to use. WHEN you place it in a cabinet as a drawer symbol- the sides of the drawer box will initially be solid and block the trash pullouts. To see them material for the drawer box sides to "Opening" (no material) (I keep a copy in my user library, materials folder, and just use the eyedropper for that) It's a good idea to open DBXs for objects AND symbols to see what is going on so you can use do it in the future.

Until you get what you want-For casings there is a new feature in X9 that does something of what you ask for-you can drag a molding profile from the library onto an object in a 3D view and change it instantly. It doesn't have the options of by room or floor that you would find in the material or object painter but pretty fast for a room. Great for "Real Time". For more complicated configuration issues (custom millwork, lintels, etc) where defaults are not dynamic, I put one of what I need in the library and use "replace from library" in which case you can replace all that are identical (same size etc) -has some advantages