Chopsaw

If not read this : https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/19169-callouts/?tab=comments#comment-157394

Hopefully your electrical is on your Electrical Layerset. Just turn off cameras on that layerset.

Ok I thought so. How about you edit the original and I delete my comments to keep some sanity in this thread. Thanks.

The original problem should get reported to Chief because at some point you may want to use the software as more than just a scrapbooking app. There are times when this is needed but we should be able to use the features they charge the big money for.

As Image ? This is different than "Current Screen"

The exception would be elevations and sections with Plot Lines, but maybe camera views are also not updating consistently. Waiting to hear from Taylor : https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/topic/19299-update-all-views-still-not-working-anybody-else-see-this/?do=findComment&comment=158918

So was each view sent from an independent saved camera ? And is it live or update on demand ? It is not likely anything to do with the pdf but depending on your method it may be a problem with the updated that happens when you print. I was asking @taylorb how the print update is programmed but have not heard back yet.

How were they sent to layout ? All camera views in X10 need to be sent from an independent saved camera unless they are images.

Yes it still seems to be and issue in X10. Not likely a setting. Another way to get around the problem would be to increase the size of your terrain and then place a 60' telephone pole in the corner that is also buried 60' below ground. Also make sure you set the scale when sending to layout and not after. However these things should be sent in as it seems to be the only hope of improvement.

I went back to the plan that I was commenting on just before Taylor B. posted and was able to record the framing issue problem failure multiple times and sent in the file and system information they requested. Hopefully it will work for them the way it did for me and can get it fixed. It is rare that this is reproducible after saving and closing the file and reopening the file but this time it was so I am hopeful.

Rene, that looks great. I think I could figure out the fame and maybe even the mattress's but the sheets and pillows are they really just maps.

Thanks for posting Cait, Is there anything consistent about when it happens other than when you don't want or need it to happen ? I was at the end of a very long day which seems to be when a lot of issues show up with the software that tech support has no way of testing for because they don't draw plans and randomly revise them the way clients expect us to do for them. I may have been experiencing some ALDO issues with layers jumping around but am not sure because that issue seems to have been more stable recently. I was pretty sure that a layer that a saved camera was using changed settings on me for a layer that I was not using at all and then the items on that layer could not be selected even though they were not locked until I switched layersets and then went back again.

These techniques are not working the same way as I stated in the unnumbered post just before yours that I tried the manual update twice or actually maybe 3 time and then remembered Perry saying that he opens and closes and tried that and it did work but who knows how many times I could have hit the other refresh button and it not worked. I was just in too much of a hurry to get finished to set up and record it even though I should have once I noticed that it was not working properly.

Taylor, thank you for clarifying this,however I have experienced otherwise many times. Could you please also explain which function is automatically activated when printing. Plot Lines are not supposed to update on printing so there must be another action that is preformed at that time. Is it the same as "Update All Live Views" ? My case may be a little different but I have also experienced failures almost exactly the same as Scott posted at the top of this thread. There may actually be three separate situations going on here or possibly even four. Plot Lines not generating properly. Plot lines not generating and displaying in the correct layer order. Plot lines being disrupted and incomplete for symbols. Plot lines and cross boxes not generating for framing members. Plot lines being offset from the object they represent. Oops maybe that is five issues. Please review that video again because if what you say is true there is an even larger problem with the software. That door was never a slab door and why would a slab door display the shadows of a panel door which are clearly visible in the video and the plot lines are missing until I updated it to show you that they were missing on the previous update that I could not have recorded unless I was to record everything I do on a daily basis. And are views not up to date when they are sent to layout ? Actually going back and reviewing my own video it actually proves what I am saying because I made a copy of an existing layout box and explained exactly what I had updated and why and the original was ok and the copied and updated version was not until I updated it again for the door which was not revised. This is an issue that is more serious than just wasted paper so I hope you have the respect and skills to fix it. The reason it is not reproducible with your testing procedures is because your testing procedures are not the same as what we put the software through on a daily or nightly basis.

The join between the roof planes must be angled or the closer wall in the graph paper sketch must be sloped at the baseline of the roof.

Mick it was you who discovered it but at least I remembered the thread:

Yes I believe so. It was not me but someone that I was helping out not long ago discovered it by accident. I will look.....

Sorry if my math seems a little confusing because it confuses me as well but it is: 42" Overall - 3.5" Rail - 7.5" Z Offset = 31"

Yea it is really finickity. My symbol that I posted was a 42" picket so the 31" Z stretch plane was exactly at the bottom of the horizontal member. Not exactly sure why it works but give it a try and see if it can work with your configuration. Also love to know if the offset picket works out a both ends. Same theory works for the Newels if you want them to punch through the deck.

Hi Steve, Yes they are created as millwork. The one I posted was optimized for a 36" railing and I am not sure that I was able to actually lock the bottom but only extend it below the floor level by adjusting the "Z" offset. Just had a play with it and I think it is possible to do as you would like and lock the bottom by setting an accurate stretch plane. Thanks for asking the question. Here is a revised millwork symbol that should do the job. Adjustable Height Railing Picket.calibz

Yes it would for sure, but for now there are a few symbols in the library or molding lines for custom stuff.

If there is literally just one that needs to be white then turn it off for the roof plane and replace it with a manually placed molding line. Or take a trip to the eaves trough section next time you are at the depot and get a brown one.

This is a real mess. I was just going over my notes for a final time and was looking at one after updating a section view. "Existing Structure......." and there was no existing structure showing at all. All the cross boxes for the joists were missing. Tried an update or two and nothing until I opened the view and updated it on closing. I have had plenty of cosmetic issues but not usually structure so this is much more serious than I previously thought. I will make another report for tech support but if anyone else is experiencing this please report it with passion. And be EXTREEMLY careful to check your work until this is fixed.

I think the only way that can happen is if you have another schedule that has been misplaced somewhere like a cad detail.

Sorry, not that I am aware of unless you wanted to layer something in manually.