Alaskan_Son

This is something I've had to do from time to time as well. In away from my computer now but I think the only ways to remove the fascia are through the roof plane dbx by either... A. Turning the fascia off entirely for that plane or... B. Decreasing the size of the fascia to at or near zero.

By reading the help files or going through the Ruby tutorial for starters.

I would encourage you to hire Joe to help you START to learn basic Ruby syntax and how/where to use it within Chief, but I would offer a friendly word of caution so you don't get your hopes up too high... Don't expect to walk away after one or 2 meetings with Joe and be able to just know how to use and teach macros. You might get the basic idea and a basic understanding but it takes a lot of time and energy to get truly proficient at it. It's more akin to learning a new language with all its intricacies than it is to learning how to use a piece of software. You can quickly learn how to say "hello my name is Scott, where is the bathroom" and you can probably teach others to say the same but that's about the extent of it. You won't be able to carry on a conversation or instruct anyone on the little intricacies without dedicating the time. Just be prepared to invest a lot of time and energy both to learn the language and to practice it. The thing is that in order to create anything beyond a very basic macro that you'll need to really have your head wrapped around the language before you're able to make real use of it. Which means having it seared into your subconscious. You'll probably lay awake at nights creating scripts in your head and you'll be thinking in terms of "dot to underscore s(tring)" for weeks on end.... you'll probably never be the same again. Anyway, have fun

I'm only guessing where the door is and this is just a start, but select those 3 walls and make them invisible...or make the 2 side walls railing walls with post to beam...or just manually place the roof planes... There are various methods. It really depends on the specifics of exactly what you are trying to do.

I feel the same way. I don't have these problems either. But I think the bottom line is that it doesn't really matter if it was user error that caused the problem or not. If the program is obviously misbehaving we should try to do our part to get it fixed. The last thing I want is to downplay it and then eventually run into the problem myself and end up with this workaround where attic walls won't rebuild properly. Please don't take offense to my statements either Perry, this is just one issue that really hits a sore spot with me. I don't know how many wasted hours I've seen on this forum where people complain and complain about problems or where the same issue gets brought up time and time again yet it seems like maybe only 1 out of 5 people ever take time to report it and when one of the most well known and vocal users tells someone it's just user error they're just further hampering those numbers (and the program) from improving.

I apologize Larry, I thought the square half post thing was part of your discussions but I just looked back and realized it's something that our friend Chop just sort of threw in there. Thanks again for reporting your problems to tech support.

Hey now...I'm thankful for all the posters who help out. You should know...I donate about as much time as almost anyone here. Thank you for sending those things in though. Its a huge help for all of us.

Please send it in yourself as well. The more reports they have of problems like this, the better. They may ask you some questions about things you have done that help get to the bottom of it.

No its not but it was definitely similar. Attic walls not behaving for no apparent reason...open the wall and simply click okay and they build fine. Perry, thank you for trying, but with all due respect you're not fixing the problem. Not in this thread or in that last one. Your suggested solution doesn't offer any improvement over simply opening the dbx and clicking okay. Go ahead and test it out. And besides, even if it did, its still not an actual solution. There is obviously a problem that needs to be addressed within Chief and chalking it up to user error isn't the answer in either case.

Here's a link to a thread with a plan that had a similar problem. I can only hope the OP sent that one into tech support as well... https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/10105-gable-ends-missing/page-2?hl=+attic%20+wall

You can change any number of different things and they will come back. Its really just opening and closing the dbx that's doing it.

It might have been something you did and it might not be, but just because one of your actions initiates buggy behavior doesn't mean its on you or your plan. CA still needs to address it. Have you sent in a report? If not, please do. I saw a similar behavior recently in a plan from another user where attic walls were building with a slope across the bottom and the only fix was to open them and click okay. In that particular plan the attic walls also wouldn't easily delete even after the roof was removed. The program shouldn't behave that way no matter where the problem started. PLEASE report problems like these.

Just got back to my computer. I only spent a few minutes playing with this, but here's one quick idea...Break that center window into 2 units and then they can join at both corners. I basically removed everything so all the windows do is create a cutout. You would just need to add the glass and frame manually. Might be another way but I think this might be the least painful... Window plan.plan

Just one man's opinion here but I think those windows feel too high as it is and so dropping the bottom down a bit shouldn't hurt. Not sure I would be, but if you're worried about the ratio, possibly make the windows a littl wider...it looks like you have the room.

Please don't make light of reporting issues you run into. Think about how much time you spend posting stuff here and how much time you spend venting, complaining, and/or struggling through all these little issues. They WON'T get fixed if we don't take time to properly report them. I can tell you from experience that more often than not when I take a few minutes to submit a thoughtful bug report that it's usually addressed rather quickly. I think the last three updates all included fixes for bugs that I took time to report. Imagine everything that might get fixed if we all did the same. Even if they don't get addressed, at least you did your part and tried. And BTW, don't hesitate to report someone else's problem (as long as you can re-create it) if you have a little spare time. The more people they have reporting a problem, the better. That way it gets fixed before you need to use the same tool, technique, or method.

No, I don't think so, not really...especially when it's connected to a wall of the same type. It's really kinda strange if you ask me. I can see what you're saying but I just don't see any good reason it should behave that way .

You offer a good solution Glenn but I would still consider this an issue that should be addressed regardless of whether or not it's normal Chief behavior. I personally see no logical reason it cannot or should not work without the strange connection issue.

I think I agree with you. I also agree with Johnny that this should be considered a bug and reported. Even if they decide it's not a bug, it needs to be addressed.

You bet. I feel the same way.

For the roof (besides whats already been mentioned above) there are multiple methods you can make work but the 2 the come to mind first are... 1. Simply dragging the walls up in elevation. 2. Setting the room(s) to have no roof and ceiling and then just drawing a manual roof plane inside your walls.

Maybe this will help you a bit. Just the basics and might answer a couple of your questions... Step 1: Build Distributed Objects>Polyline Distribution Path Step 2: Draw line and Change Line/Arc Step 3: Select object and adjust settings as necessary Step 4: Explode Distributed Object (I thought I went over this step in that video but maybe not) Step 5: Delete, move, modify objects as necessary ...and any number of extra steps in between or after those.

Just got back to my computer. Select that wall, click on the Materials tab, click on the Interior Wall Surface material, click Select Material, and then check Use Default Material. There is something funny going on with the material definition for that wall. Not sure how it got that way though.

Overlayed views, added text/CAD in layout, or you could convert the whole plan to a symbol, rotate it to its side, take an elevation view of the roof and add any notations you want to that view. Definitely a good handful of methods and combinations thereof.

Click the little Open Symbol icon and it's in there.

I'm away from my computer now, but double check that wall definition and see what happens if you turn on your wall framing layer.