simonas Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Hi everyone, is it possible to specify door label as rough opening, not door size? I's much more common to show rough door openings in architectural plan, and not door size without framing. I don't understand why automatic door label is door size without frame? Is it standard in US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 If you go into door defaults under framing you can specify the r.o. for each side, and top, they when you set your defaults for your door schedule add the r.o. to your schedule and they will show, if you get a door that is different just set it in that door dbx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 But is it possible to set is as a label? so RO shows up in the plan view instead of door size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I think only if you set a door to the r.o. that you want that door to be in the door label ten copy that door where you ant it, then if you have a differnt door you have to set that label and copy that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Thanks Ray, from what you saying the answer to my question in NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It can be done with a custom macro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 It can be done with a custom macro. Joe, can you give me step-by-step to this? Macros is my weak point for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Simonas, Put the attached macro in your Door Labels. Ideally, it should be in the Door Default Label so that new doors will automatically have that Label. BTW, the macro is set to round both the width and height to 2 decimal places. If you don't want any decimal places - just edit the macro so that the round(2) is round(0). Door_RO.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 In answer to the other question, yes, it would be non standard in my experience to see the rough opening as the dimension indicator on the plan. This would be due to a change in window manufacturer in the bidding process could require a new set of R.O.'s. It is safer to give the direction to where the window goes and then allow for the minor adjustment. This is why windows are often dimensioned at the centers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Alan, You are 100% correct for wood frame construction. However, for masonry and concrete construction it is quite common to dimension the rough opening. It then becomes the Door & Window suppliers that have to verify the sizes that will fit. Hopefully the Schedule will show the correct sizes and the RO's are correct in the first place as well as as-built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I am so used to building on lots the size of a Midwest walk in closet that it is hard to imagine being able to afford a wall thicker than 5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 If you use a door schedule, you can also have it there, without using a macro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief58 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Perry that's what I was suggesting but he wants the R.O. to show on the print at the door as a label from what I am understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonas Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 I need to show in plan view either rough door opening of door size with frame included, non of these is possible. It's only door size without a frame which is really strange...why would you show door panel size in architectural drawings? You guys work with Chief for decades... didn't you find this strange? Who needs this door panel size? Architects, builders, interior designers or even owner is not interested in this dimension at all. The only person who will have advantage of this number is door producer. Everyone else wants to know door size (frame included) or door opening gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Simonas, Most of us use a Door Schedule which includes the Door Size, the Frame Thickness and the RO Size. This provides the required information to all the trades & suppliers. Personally, I use the Callout for the Label so they all have to refer to the Schedule to get the information they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I need to show in plan view either rough door opening of door size with frame included, non of these is possible. It's only door size without a frame which is really strange...why would you show door panel size in architectural drawings? You guys work with Chief for decades... didn't you find this strange? Who needs this door panel size? Architects, builders, interior designers or even owner is not interested in this dimension at all. The only person who will have advantage of this number is door producer. Everyone else wants to know door size (frame included) or door opening gap. I've never shown door labels like you want them, but each to their own. It would be nice if you could do it your way if you wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Perry that's what I was suggesting but he wants the R.O. to show on the print at the door as a label from what I am understanding Thanks, I now get it. Skimmed his post too quickly. Sometimes I do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I need to show in plan view either rough door opening of door size with frame included, non of these is possible. It's only door size without a frame which is really strange...why would you show door panel size in architectural drawings? You guys work with Chief for decades... didn't you find this strange? Who needs this door panel size? Architects, builders, interior designers or even owner is not interested in this dimension at all. The only person who will have advantage of this number is door producer. Everyone else wants to know door size (frame included) or door opening gap. Because that is the Industry Standard in many parts of the World , any Builder knows to just Frame the RO to the next door size up so the one spec'd will fit in the RO. ie an 810mm Door's RO is 860mm . Doing Masonry walls it may well be different though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisePac Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 6/7/2015 at 12:47 PM, Joe_Carrick said: Simonas, Put the attached macro in your Door Labels. Ideally, it should be in the Door Default Label so that new doors will automatically have that Label. BTW, the macro is set to round both the width and height to 2 decimal places. If you don't want any decimal places - just edit the macro so that the round(2) is round(0). Door_RO.zip 319 B · 140 downloads Joe, I realize this is an old thread, but how do I access the macro information within the JSON file that is in this zip file you provided? I'd like to use it and I'm not sure how to open or import it into Chief. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 @DenisePacNotepad or any other text editor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Once unzipped (extracted), Joe's file is a .json (or macro file) which can be import via Text Macro management as seen in Eric's posted Pic above. M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 It should be noted that in the latest couple releases we can simply enter the desired code right there in the label much of the time. In this case, the following should do the trick: %width+(rough_opening_side*2)% x %height+rough_opening_bottom+rough_opening_top% 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisePac Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Thank you everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3D_Russ Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 4/1/2022 at 12:54 PM, Alaskan_Son said: It should be noted that in the latest couple releases we can simply enter the desired code right there in the label much of the time. In this case, the following should do the trick: %width+(rough_opening_side*2)% x %height+rough_opening_bottom+rough_opening_top% What's the proper format for X15? I loved this formula and it doesn't work now. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, 3D_Russ said: What's the proper format for X15? I loved this formula and it doesn't work now. Thank you Yes, X15 changed several NVPs so that formula doesn't work. You'll need to get Michael to provide a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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