Charlenerene Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hey Guys, So I am working on a wall niche. I made the wall and used the pass through window, removing the casing and sills. I then made the polyline solid and put it in the window. But I cannot get the polyline solid to show up in the camera view even after turning on every single layer. Any ideas? Best Regards, Charlene Design to Shine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlenerene Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Here is the plan. master_bath.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 You needed to take another step using the poly line tool and convert it to a slab and then you can adjust the location and change the color and/or materials you want it to be. Check out the attached drawings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution scottharris Posted March 11, 2015 Solution Share Posted March 11, 2015 Charlene, raise the elevation and thickness of your p. solid; BTW, I usually draw these in an elevation view to avoid figuring out the dimensions for the elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUSMC Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 There are several pre-made wall niches / nook to download from here. I have uploaded a plan that I inserted the one I have. There are square, arched, with & without trim and some are revered to the exterior. They already have the backs in them, you can edit the materials just like a door with casing. No reason to reinvent the wheel. Hope they are what you're looking for. Rob Recessed Wall Nook Set.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Nice job Rob, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUSMC Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Try using a wall cabinet for the niche, just turn off bumping/pushing and float into place. Just make sure it protrudes from the wall face say 1/16" so it will show. You now have full control over the niche with the cabinet dialog settings. Can also be a medicine cabinet. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Try using a wall cabinet for the niche, just turn off bumping/pushing and float into place. Just make sure it protrudes from the wall face say 1/16" so it will show. You now have full control over the niche with the cabinet dialog settings. Can also be a medicine cabinet. Graham Assuming that a pass thru has been already placed in position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 No need unless framing details are required. Just make sure to float it out say around 1/16" beyond the wall face other wise the wall finish will hide it from view. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 No need unless framing details are required. Just make sure to float it out say around 1/16" beyond the wall face other wise the wall finish will hide it from view. Graham Please post a pic, I think you are missing the point that we want a niche. I think you will find your method leaves drywall in place that will HIDE the niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleChief Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think you will find your method leaves drywall in place that will HIDE the niche. That's what I found too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 You need to move it just slightly out from the wall surface into the room. if it is in the same plane as the wall surface it will be hidden. I use this method all the time. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sorry, you are correct. Works fine as long as there is a door. I will go back and take a look to see how I worked around this for an opening. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ok here's what I did, keep in mind that I'm an interior focused guy. As I always clad the walls with partitions to represent the tile work I just pulled the wall behind out of the way. No more interference but unhappy framers!!! Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Played with this a bit. Here's a crazy work around. Wall type 3 1/2" framed. Change Interior & Exterior finishes to Glass. Must do it to both sides. Place your wall cabinet into the cavity according to the depth you need. Use the Material regions tool to rebuild the wall finish around the niche. On the other side use the Material Regions tool to rebuild the drywall. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Here are two pics showing the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Just checked this method against the material list function. Everything calculates correctly for all of the main materials, studs, drywall & tile. Likely the only thing would be for a large niche that mea need to framed like a pass-thorough. For most shower niches this would not be an issue. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Graham, This is an interesting concept. By replacing the Wall Finish Layers with a Wall Material Region (exactly the same definition) I can then cut a Hole in the Wall Material Region and insert an Object (cabinet, symbol, etc) into that hole without having a hole in the opposite side of the wall. Great solution to a Niche. Works in all Render Techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So far from my playing around it only works if the wall type is FRAME, both interior and exterior finishes must changed to glass in the Dialog box. Now the wall is see through. You can then place any object into or through the cavity. Go back and use the Material Definition tool and click on the Glass change material type to your desired finish and drag around to expose the item you inserted into the wall cavity. Go around to the other side and do the same thing, maybe in this case it's just drywall. This technique can be used for anything you wish to reside within the cavity, exposed on one face or right through both sides. Also cross section views will show the item within the cavity. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Graham, Take a look at this thread https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/4317-the-ultimate-almost-niche-solution/#entry37402 It works without the Glass, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Here's an even faster way. Make the wall type glass, change wall width to say 4 1/2". Place your cabinet anywhere. Use Material Regions to configure the wall surface around the object, change to your desired finish. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Here's an even faster way. Make the wall type glass, change wall width to say 4 1/2". Place your cabinet anywhere. Use Material Regions to configure the wall surface around the object, change to your desired finish. Graham No Wall Framing with a Glass Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitchenAbode Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Graham, Take a look at this thread https://chieftalk.chiefarchitect.com/index.php?/topic/4317-the-ultimate-almost-niche-solution/#entry37402 It works without the Glass, etc. Hi Joe, exactly the same thing but more refined. Unfortunately I am not sure this post was available until after the fact. Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builtright3 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I tried messing around with making the Niche (or what I call a shadow box) out of a medicine cabinet but It wasn't that easy. So the one in the attached picture I made from an upper cabinet. Much easier! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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