Joe_Carrick Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I just had a set of plans rejected because my Code Reference was to the 2016 CRC. I didn't even know the 2019 had been adopted. Does anyone know if there have been changes from the 2016 CRC? If so, what are the changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACADuser Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 We're are still on Florida Building Code 2017. It always irritated me that the building department communicates via Red Tags! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, ACADuser said: It always irritated me that the building department communicates via Red Tags! San Diego County still accepts 2016. San Diego City doesn't. PITA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 most cities and county's around here are 2019 codes including 2019 energy and California Green codes. I downloaded my free copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 It's a statewide (California) requirement to update to the current 2019 CRC. There are plenty of summaries available online. Just Google it. Why is this a surprise? It changes every three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 http://www.lodielectric.com/DocumentCenter/View/2937/2019-CA-Building-Code--Residential-Code-Significant-Changes-PDF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/3/2020 at 2:48 PM, Joe_Carrick said: San Diego County still accepts 2016. San Diego City doesn't. PITA Joe, I was flagged by the county, they are using the 2019 code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, dshall said: Joe, I was flagged by the county, they are using the 2019 code. Yep. I've updated my Code List Text Block for all jurisdictions. This has been a rather annoying time. Submit for Plan Check - 2 months later get the plans back - make corrections - resubmit and the Code has changed - resubmit with new Code reference. Arrrgh !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe_Carrick said: ....... - 2 months later get the plans back ........ ..... and that is not an exaggeration. It is getting ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe_Carrick said: Yep. I've updated my Code List Text Block for all jurisdictions. This has been a rather annoying time. Submit for Plan Check - 2 months later get the plans back - make corrections - resubmit and the Code has changed - resubmit with new Code reference. Arrrgh !!! Generally, whichever Code you submit under (based on the date of the permit application) remains the governing Code for the project. For example, many people were racing to get plans submitted before the end of the year under the 2016 Energy Code because the 2019 requirements were far more draconian. Did the plan checker tell you that you had to submit under the new Code, or did you just assume that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Richard, San Diego is a much different place to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Morrison Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe_Carrick said: Richard, San Diego is a much different place to work. May be. But they still use the date the building permit application is complete -- i.e. the date they take it in as ready for review, not the date the permit is approved -- to set the governing Code cycle. This is on their website, and is pretty much the policy everywhere in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Richard_Morrison said: May be. But they still use the date the building permit application is complete -- i.e. the date they take it in as ready for review, not the date the permit is approved -- to set the governing Code cycle. This is on their website, and is pretty much the policy everywhere in California. That's good to know, but it's pretty much irrelevant. There are not many changes from 2016 to 2019 and I only have one project that was submitted in 2016 and hasn't been permitted yet so I've just changed the reference to be the 2019 code. It's easier to make that change than to worry about it. Maybe I can program my macro to automatically update every 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCSD Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Joe, upcodes is a great resource for codes, they tell you what code is currently in effect and their books include state amendments as well. https://up.codes/codes/california 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 10:28 AM, Joe_Carrick said: That's good to know, but it's pretty much irrelevant. There are not many changes from 2016 to 2019 and I only have one project that was submitted in 2016 and hasn't been permitted yet so I've just changed the reference to be the 2019 code. It's easier to make that change than to worry about it. Maybe I can program my macro to automatically update every 3 years. here is a list of some standard California changes I put on every plan 2019 min const standards.zip 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, DRAWZILLA said: here is a list of some standard California changes I put on every plan 2019 min const standards.zip Thanks Perry!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 52 minutes ago, DRAWZILLA said: here is a list of some standard California changes I put on every plan 2019 min const standards.zip Man, Thank you! I've only updated 1 set with a limited scope but nice to steal someone else's standards for larger jobs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesVolz Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Thanks, Perry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Thanks Perry. I was watching a deck code webinar this past week and they showed a diagram for the 30" height of a deck and then measured 36" out for drop of slope. Previously I had seen this 30" measured at 30" away. Is this a new change? Does it apply in California? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 yes it's new this year, they measure the drop-off differently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgearaya Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I keep tabs with the forum on and off, unable to reply on most posts, but this one I just have to steal the time from other tasks!! I will call it a break instead. Quote On 3/3/2020 at 2:11 PM, Joe_Carrick said: If so, what are the changes? The code update cycle is still going on and keeping me awake! I get asked this question all the time and my answer is very simple, too much has changed! Take the time to read each book and get your head around the changes sooner than later, yes, each book. CBC, CRC, CEC, CPC, CMC, GBS, BEES or CEC (we have two CEC's now) in addition to learn if there were any changes to each muni code of the jurisdictions you work with... Don't forget the Utility Company books may have also gotten updates. Good luck!! Guess who had the most and worst changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToolBox Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Perry, you are the man. Thank you for your work. I have asked our inspectors about the code changes and they don't have a clue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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