JohnLP Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 For a walk out basement design should the room design for the basement floor (the floor that has daylight windows) be on floor 0 with the foundation definitions, or on floor 1 and then also have a floor 2 as the main living floor (this is a 2 level home)? using Pro 2018 Build 19.3.1.80SX John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 It's personal preference, but I always place the first story(in your case the ground floor/basement) on Chief's Floor 1. I reserve Floor 0 strictly for the foundation that is below the first story (stem walls, footings, pads, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 personal choice - as Robert said benefits for either method - hassles for either method Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, rlackore said: It's personal preference, but I always place the first story(in your case the ground floor/basement) on Chief's Floor 1. I reserve Floor 0 strictly for the foundation that is below the first story (stem walls, footings, pads, etc.). I also do it this way because I need a foundation plan for con doc's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLP Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Thank you to all, makes sense to me to keep the foundation separate, even though in this case, the side and back walls away from the front lower level windows end up being an extension of the stem walls (ie cement block). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I believe most of CA's sample plans have foundation and basement on floor 0 but I can see the advantage of keeping foundation separate from basement but never did it while in the business Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I use floor 0. Here are a couple looks. Both are floor 0, use Anno Sets to be able to separate the floor plan from the foundation plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 use Anno Sets to be able to separate the floor plan from the foundation plan Joey: nice to know Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 With X10, you can name the "Saved Plan Views". No longer do you need to be concerned with "Floor Level" (should be called "Plan Level") - which is not the same as the "Floor Name". The following works for me: Level 0 = Foundation Plan Level 1 = Basement Level 2 = 1st Floor Plan Level 3 = 2nd Floor Plan ...etc. Attic = Roof Plan or, if there isn't a Basement Level 0 = Foundation Plan Level 1 = 1st Floor Plan Level 2 = 2nd Floor Plan ...etc. Attic = Roof Plan Whatever you name the "Saved Plan Views" in the Project Browser is what the %view.name% macro will use. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLP Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 I see, use floor 0 with annotation to distinguish, thank you for the insight. I'm slowly getting educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Level 0 = Foundation Plan Level 1 = Basement or, if there isn't a Basement Level 0 = Foundation Plan Level 1 = 1st Floor Plan Joe: that seems rather inconsistent ??? My preference would be to stick with one method or the other I've always leaned towards floor 0 being foundation and basement same as CA does but I was seeing merit in those who suggested separating them but I like Joey's solution Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I do basements here in Indiana 80% of the time. No slabs ever, and crawl spaces for the other 20% (just a short basement really) and I don't think i would ever put my basement on floor 1. Not the way I am wired, and not the way my brain works. My system works very well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 @Joe_Carrick I have to be honest. I have looked at the videos for the saved plan view, and I am simply not interested. I see no benefit whatsoever to improve my work flow. It's just something, IMO, that distracts from the fact that the stair tool is awful, the soffits still don't frame, the soffit connections are awful in plan view half the time, trusses still to my knowledge don't auto frame, so we have to build framing and then go back and change it all if using floor trusses or roof trusses. I am still adding 2D CAD line workarounds in my con docs and if I had any desire to upgrade from X8 I would still have to use those workarounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLP Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Thank you, I was beginning to see that there was a difference from the Xnn version numbers mentioned. They must be using "Premier" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbuttery Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 John: HD PRO users can benefit from following Chieftalk since PRO has manual roofs, framing, cabinets etc just be aware of the differences in feature sets Lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, joey_martin said: @Joe_Carrick I have to be honest. I have looked at the videos for the saved plan view, and I am simply not interested. I see no benefit whatsoever to improve my work flow. It's just something, IMO, that distracts from the fact that the stair tool is awful, the soffits still don't frame, the soffit connections are awful in plan view half the time, trusses still to my knowledge don't auto frame, so we have to build framing and then go back and change it all if using floor trusses or roof trusses. I am still adding 2D CAD line workarounds in my con docs and if I had any desire to upgrade from X8 I would still have to use those workarounds. I would never put any basement plan on floor 0 and if you are still using X8, you are missing out on a ton of stuff that will save you time drawing, never use cad either, anno-sets are great but plan views are better for working on your drawings . Anno-set have not gone away they are still there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I have X9, tried it...useless. There is not one single thing in X9 or apparently X10 that I would use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Not useless for me, I have found stuff in every upgrade that helps with actual con doc's, how about being able to change the property's of windows and doors from any schedule you have and click on any item in the schedule and Chief will show you where that item is in the plan view, pretty nice if you ask me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Keep in mind Perry...we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I don't need 7 different schedules and 52 macros for headers and notes and etc...( I still have NO clue what Ruby or is or why I should care) so some of the improvements you are seeing and maybe using are 100% useless to me. For the majority of my builder clients this.... https://www.dropbox.com/s/1n4jajmfzj7jdoq/Caroline Plan Set_12_01_16.pdf?dl=0 ....is not only all they want, but it's all they are willing to pay for. Custom home clients can/are more involved, but my current system and workflow more than handles those situations. It's all the workarounds that I need reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey_martin Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Quote ....windows and doors from any schedule.... Rarely use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well good for you , Joey. I just hope you don't get left in the technology dust. I believe it best to keep up. It works for me and my clients, they all like the new stuff and everything I do is custom no plan ever the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNestor Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, joey_martin said: Keep in mind Perry...we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I don't need 7 different schedules and 52 macros for headers and notes and etc...( I still have NO clue what Ruby or is or why I should care) so some of the improvements you are seeing and maybe using are 100% useless to me. For the majority of my builder clients this.... https://www.dropbox.com/s/1n4jajmfzj7jdoq/Caroline Plan Set_12_01_16.pdf?dl=0 ....is not only all they want, but it's all they are willing to pay for. Custom home clients can/are more involved, but my current system and workflow more than handles those situations. It's all the workarounds that I need reduced. Just want to mention...Joey Martin produces plans that are unrivaled. He's truly a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 20 hours ago, SNestor said: Just want to mention...Joey Martin produces plans that are unrivaled. He's truly a professional. Yes Joey does produce very nice plans, but for us in southern California that's not enough, we need all the goodies we can get. Joey also does some cad work which I try to evade like the plague . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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