MarkMc

I stuck on in plan posted earlier on another thread- here there's one in there that functions as a drawer, in X9 can be shown open or closed , put a block there if you want to change door styles and a cabinet with it in -need to make the sides of the drawerbox no material. Has lids unlike the others but I just hacked it from the Rev-A-Shelf zip file of 3D dwg into SU. Too much to get rid of the lids since I never use top mount trash.

Updated plan file with double top mount trash -by istelf, in a block with a door, and as a drawer symbol for use with opening cabinets. rest is as it was. It's an X9 file.

I've run into the lack of autosave being there. I "think" that it's not new to x9. if I also occasionally save the plan then the auto works. Not at machine and relying on feeble memory. Have trained myself to have a twitch in left hand - hits ctrl+S. Once in a while I get distracted though.

Tip - in template, cabinet defaults, set shelves manually to less than "full" depth. Prevents them showing through doors.

A web search will find a couple of ways (free utility, registry hack...) to solve it. http://superuser.com/questions/466661/how-to-force-windows-to-save-desktop-icon-positions http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=faq-DesktopOK&faq=18 http://www.askvg.com/fix-desktop-icons-position-and-folder-view-settings-problem-in-windows-10/ I use UltraMon for multiple monitors let's me save desktop icons location and restore just in case they go wanky.

Checked, don't have same issues. PTP? Something out in space? Check mouse settings?

Shelagh -Thought about this last night. If you like I can set up an online meeting to show you what I'm doing for dimensions, schedules, final drawings, a few quirks... in Chief. I have a Zoom account that I don't use enough, so can use that. Might be a good kickstart for you? From the looks of my current schedule it would have to be the first week of February. I've noticed that there are several kitchen newbies on lately so if anyone is interested let me know chime in, if there is interest I'll post this as a fresh thread. I also know that there are a few experienced kitchen folks who just lurk here, would be great if they could join in. Would aim for an hour, ABSOLUTE max 2 hrs. You should at least have X9 on your machine even if not using it for production. It will be the most useful if using the Premier version but if using the Interiors version you're welcome but the most important things I use for final documents-(annosets, detail from view, Ruby, append text to dimensions, project browser) are only available in Premier.

I use Chief because it is infinitely more accurate than 2020 (see attached) There are a few instances where you have to work a little differently to get what is needed, but you can always get there. I was under the impression that you wanted to dimension to the side panel, no?. As noted-Using the DBX to add panels will only show in elevations and 3D views not in plan AND it will not "bump" to casings. Yeah that should be fixed. IF you want snap and bump then add a door to the side of the cabinet, select them both and make it an architectural block, that WILL snap to your casings. If you like that add to library. You can change the door style by "tabbing" into the arch block. (Personally I find it a pia so I deal with it other ways- you have several options) Attached a jpeg with a few details from an order, getting plans and elevations is easier. I just checked the other machine-2020 does NOT dimension to an added side panel. It does "sort of" bump to the casing but (on V9 last one I have) in plan the panel overlaps the casing while in elevation it does not-accurate?

Works for me in X9, check your layer settings?

Yeah like that. Not necessarily automatically moving or playing music, just for access?

Dimensions will change when you add return walls due to where the program calculates them from. I rarely if ever enter dimensions for each wall as I draw. Rather watch the temp dims, draw, then starting at one end, select wall, and change dims based on the temp dims that are now interior surface to surface (so long as you select in the right place Or I place some dimension strings and edit. Very fast, less frustrating.

Dan that's good news. Can the models sent to the online 3D viewer be embedded?

The file format itself won't change. Once saved in X9 it can't be opened by earlier versions.

This is a long standing issue. Using either panel or auto panel, the panel will NOT show in plan view and does not occupy any space in the programs mind. So bumping and pushing do NOT account for the panel. X9 has added the ability to show doors in plan, but not side panels. Neither doors nor standard side panels can be snapped to for dimensioning. NOTE that if you set sides to paneled as a default it will place a panel on every single cabinet and that is how they would appear in your schedule. OTOH if you set it to auto paneled then panels will only be placed on exposed ends so the schedule will read correctly. To get side panel to show in plan and snap dimensions to- Place a door in plan, click OK when asked if you really want to place this. Change the height, width AND height off floor to what you need. center to cabinet front to back and slide over till it bumps. You can block the two together to make moving them around easier but then you have to tab through the arch block to change the size of the cabinets. Pikyerpoison. Adding molding does not change the cabinet height in the schedule. Including a counter increase a base cabinet height listing in the schedule BUT in x9 there is now a second listing available "box height", a welcome addition. Sometime in the past I requested the side panel issue be addressed. Maybe next release. It wouldn't hurt for you to send it in as a suggestion.

Current project had these- Sun Valley Bronze "Lift" edge pulls. Made drawers to match, symbols are on the floor of the plan. Needed a couple of versions to make them line up top and bottom. Don't really remember which ones I used on which variation of cabinet so included them all. Check cabinet DBX, then each drawer to see how to set pull locations.

Nice Gerry, I can see adapting this withing the system I've been using with the OIP. I'm guessing that the macro names can be changed to something easier to remember with a little work. Also will give me something really useful to chew on while learning Ruby. Will put in the suggestion for arguments

Attached here are two plan files zipped and a library. This is stuff I did during testing back in Sept/Oct. I just assembled it all here. I don't do vids (someone else can if they want) There are parts, blocks, and assembled cabinets. In some cases there are several cabinets placed inside each other. I suggest that you look through the DBX of everything, open symbols etc. to see where origins, stretch planes, and stretch zones need to be. Blocks are included where you want to make your own symbol and change the door style. One is plan is an early version of a kitchen for client with MS- (better version was done with the help of Richard M-final is another story altogether though) I included that since when some of the items are moved to a plan with different toe heights things go awry. The other plan just has an assortment of stuff I grabbed from other files to put in one place. I added in the pullouts today. I already had a bunch of these, just made them work with the new feature. Note that for in many cases you will want to change the drawer box material to "Opening (no material) . It is in your library already (got this from Joe C). I added it to my user library materials for easy use. Some of the appliances were done starting with SU symbols that were deconstructed and turned into door or drawer symbols. Just a note, I'd already been this same thing look/demonstration for rollouts and pullouts with layersets prior to this. I'm not sure that the open door thing is more efficient yet for those. For appliances though it is a winner. It would be swell if anybody that creates their own appliance parts adds them here along the way. I'd requested parts from Chief , likely to arrive at some point, may even be easier to use than what I have here. They did make it so that appliance door thickness reads correctly in plan in the latest release. I'd also asked for control over drawer box side heights separate from faces and greater control over degree of opening (and past 90 degrees).

We don't show them in 2d. If trash pullout is a "standard" per the brand the label will indicate that, if other we put it in the mod code. In either case it is commented, we use a second plan with all cabinet comments most times, others comments column is in the schedule. (using the new field in the OIP either way)

I asked at the Chief booth, there will be a Rev-A-Shelf catalog (mfg) "soon", exists just not ready. Pull outs like this will NOT pull out "as supplied " in current version. Not hard to hack into a functioning drawer symbol (I did this in testing)

I think since this is still officially beta it might be useful to do what Joe suggests, play with it. During earlier beta I'd pick somehow and use it, find a bug send it in, find something that doesn't quite do what you expect, send it in. Not that there's going to be major changes except fixing bugs, still kind of the purpose of beta right?

Go to Rev-A-Shelf.com , you can download entire catalog as dwg, have to create a free user account first.

Have not used Google cardboard, from what I can tell, drop phone into it with view on screen. Get a virtual reality sort of thing. At least one demo I saw elsewhere was -turn your head and view moves.

Not going to be in the library. I have a double, front to back, and a plan (from testing) that shows how to do it. I'm in Orlando now, can post it when back, Saturday. In the meantime check 3D warehouse to see if that model is available. If not kept me know make and model (rev-a-shelf, etc) and see if I can dig up something (early next week)

Sent email re GTM For me, (kitchens) the OIP is great, can now quickly get what is needed to order cabinets into a schedule. Then copy paste to spreadsheet, drag and drop to on line ordering OR into 2020, OR paste into spreadsheet order forms. Time saved and accuracy is huge. Will do a video once new label macros are finished. Cabinet doors on separate layer. Much easier to get detail from view allowing dimensions snapped to openings. Like ability to replace by dragging from library, especially when making odd symbols to check changes to origin, stretch planes. Undo speed and increased amount, ...rendering is nice.

1-YIPPPEEE 2- need to read more about numbers etc-have it working as I noted- didn't work when put back value.ceil and made those changes (possible pilot error) 3-that's what I thought, it was the error messages that got me confused about it. Tried this-got curiously unexpected results elsewhere, likely pilot error, will be trying again. What I did not understand was that I could not get "OR" (||) to work as I expected. Found something on the web that explained it. I thought "and" "or" and variants were Boolean, this say not. Gerry sent you a PM thanks. I have something that works for almost everything in this brand, attached. It really needs cleaning up and simplifying (noted in code) but what I've tried so far has not worked (going back to the books). May change it by splitting for cabinet types (think one of you told me to do that at some point somewhere)