MarkMc

There is simply no way to set stretch planes or zones to accommodate that. Instead of simply resizing it would have to alter the number of slats. You would need a lot of stretch planes to make it work. I guess you could do it with a 3 panel but then the panels will become the wrong size. It would have to work something like framing. I suppose that is possible but to set that up for a very few cabinet door styles (that are not all that common I've sold one in 20 years) doesn't qualify as a bug to me. I can't imagine what that would end up doing to all the other door styles.

Attached is a plan with doors, wainscott panels to make doors, the parts I used to make the wainscot, and the cabinet used to make the door. These are typically done in separate plans I just included it all in one for simplicity. Did this quickly so molding, slat bevel, and in some cases stretch areas may need adjustment. From there it's up to you if you want adjustments. Slat assortment.zip

You need a second door symbol, one with fewer slats, same as IRL

You can't import 2020 catalogs. You don't need to. Short answer-there is a video (don't remember who recorded and posted it)- I think in the tips section- from a goto meeting I did last year. In that I touch upon most of what you need but it did run off track from what I wanted to get done. I gave up 2020 years ago despite owning a copy and having used it for 15 yrs. I currently handle 3 brands with 3 lines each and have used Chief and this system for 3 others over the last 6 years. In general-you are going to set up templates for each brand OR use a template for type of structure/ceiling height etc and import defaults for the cabinets from another plan as needed. To make the template work for a brand you MUST use the cabinets from the build menu NOT the cabinets from any of Chiefs libraries (they don't follow the dynamic defaults well enough) Make a folder for each brand in your user library. You will want to keep the most commonly used cabinets that take time to configure-3DB, 4DB, 2DB, microwave, trash poullout(S), oven, fridge- like that. You can add them as you make them or spend a little time and do a batch to start with. I like to keep those cabinets all at 15" wide (for use with "replace from library") For each of those cabinets add ALL of the most commonly used modifications to one of the OIP fields (I use the Code field). It is easier to delete them than to add them. I also keep lists of mods both in a spreadsheet and a shorter list copied from the sheet to stored Stickies (zhornsoftware.co.uk). You can drag and drop the code for the mode from the sheet or the stickie to the OIP field. (protect the sheet and it will only copy, hold ctrl dragging from a stickie) Do you design work with just the cabinets from the build library, set sizes to what you need. Once done, go around and use replace from library to place your saved cabinets. Resize each one as needed as you go. OR if you can just drag the user library cabinets in as you go-(I find the first method faster YMMV) You have to make a choice about how you deal with finished sides. Chief has fixed the labeling but not how they work. SO you either need to set your defaults for side to 1) ALL unfinished (my preference) 2) to auto knowing some will be missing and some finished that should not be 3) set them all to finished. Whichever method you MUST go back and fix something. Pick the one that will allow you to avoid mistakes. Door styles-I've posted several versions of plans in the symbols section to use as a kit to make your own door styles. It is very quick, quicker than rummaging though a bunch of other brands looking for a close match. Learn how to make door symbols, you won't regret it. Pricing- The GTM video I mentioned goes over how to get an order out of a Chief schedule- again it went a bit off track. I hope to have one to Scott Harris before KBIS though at this point it will be brief. The biggest trick to doing this well is the labels. Naturally the cabinets in your user library for each brand will have the correct labels. For the rest-If your brand happens to match Chief's labels your are in luck. If not the alternative's are a custom macro (I've done one or two that are close to ok-again likely in some of the plans I've posted in the past) OR you change labels as needed either in Chief. Getting the order out of Chief-simply have the columns you need set in Chief. Select the schedule, copy. Paste special (as plain text-comma deliminted) into a spread sheet. From there you either manipulate the sheet to copy and paste your data into a spreadsheet template of an order form OR better yet simply drag and drop from the copied sheet into your brands on line ordering system. The advantage of the latter is you won't have to look up pricing. For the one brand I have that does not have an online system I use a spreadsheet template and look up the prices in a pdf catalog (with my own added bookmarks) using multiple monitors. Pricing and ordering is very quick.

Just info I was looking for (from a reliable source) thanks Graham. I've been considering one of these as a part time secondary machine. Now to sell the idea to the CFO

Nice one Glenn, works easily. Just changed the material for the inside of the railing wall to match the exterior. Thought I would have seen that on one of the shower wall discussions but don't recall such, would work nicely there.

Not at computer. Suggest posting in Q&A and post a plan. That may be easier with pony wall.

Check ALL the DBX pages and settings. Bottom rail is a drop down in the rails tab. I'm using X9- did you download the plan I posted?

No problem, happens a lot with new users regardless of language. Attached quick plan- look in the railing dbx and explore settings also need to to adjust the walls below to balloon through ceiling. Balconey.plan

Railing, panel type, change railing height and include bottom railing, distance off floor zero BTW your question really belongs in th Q&A section

This should get you started. Began with a line, determine points for curve and add breaks, check the dimensions, convert to curve. Then add sides and bottoms till it is a polyline. Copy in place, move one copy disconnect everything but the curve. Convert the curve to 3d molding line. Convert the polyline to a Psolid. Mess with the sides of the moldings (tip add break points first) Scroll work is in library. If you want beaded inset and chamfers I've posted stuff on that in symbols a while back- not for the faint hearted that bit.. Have fun. This took under 15 minutes but expect to spend a lot more time if just learning this stuff. Save often!! Curved top.plan

Depends- First with full arch was a quicky since the cabinets with cureve were existing and doing a favor to add the dark corner cabinets. Used an arched door way, fiddled with walls, forced cabinets in place, converted from a cad detail to create the molding. Second is not curved top but gets the idea- how it would be done IRL by adding a pediment at the top- make a custom symbol, that's what is on the top of this cabinet. Third and plan slapped together as principle if you needed curved doors as well. Custom door (stretch plane defined to prevent height resize), mess with the cabinet and add a custom pediment at the top. Arch door.plan

No you are not off base, that is exactly what is going on. They may someday be able to allow snapping to openings the way we can to toe kick but for now the answer is Detail from view. I do it all the time, no big deal other than keeping it current to the model.

Might find some useful information in this thread

Up to V9 that only works for inset cabinets, not overlay doors. It takes forever, prone picking the wrong line, difficult to adjust and every now and then they would simply disappear if you switch tabs. (as did notes). Impossible to get a CAD editable elevation. I first used v5.6? In 2000 and worked with it exclusively till 2011. Continued his use it sporadically for able 3 years. The biggest mistakes I made learning Chief were continuing to use 2020 and thinking it should work like 2020. Once I put 2020 completely behind me and tried to understand how Chief thinks progress became rapid.

Welcome. One thing I failed to mention. I design everything with those cabinets from the Build menu. Once I have sizes use "replace from library" to place the saved cabinets from the user library. I save most all of them at 15" wide. They will be that size when you use it to replace. So replace one at a time and drag to fit the space you had. This avoids the program telling you the cabinet won't fit. The other thing is I move the folder to the top of the user catalog by preceding the name with spaces, dashes and or underscores. Changing as the need arises. For many projects I will also make a folder for that project- again keeping it at or near the top. I then copy any relevant items likely needed to that folder-cabinets, door symbols, millwork, appliances, materials- everything. That way anytime I'm using a DBX to change things it will automatically be going to that folder (so long as that is where I picked the defaults from). I don't EVER use shortcuts in the library because then it will go to the folder where the shortcut points to rather than my job specific folder. When job is completely over , if I made any project specific symbols I move them, then delete the folder.

To be clear this becomes a primary license at the price. I pay a higher transfer fee since it is a secondary.

Add cabinets to your user library. I keep them by maker and try to have as much set to use "dynamic defaults" as possible. To that end I only use cabinets from the main "build" menu when creating variations. For the cabinet use a framed cabinet and delete the bottom separation. If you need it to be frameless just make the default separations 3/4" This is all using X9 Premier. Be a good idea to add version of software and some computer information to your signature.

No longer need my second license. $1900 to get including transfer fees I have to pay. I have the transfer papers ready. SSA does NOT transfer with the license. You can get that from Chief for $495 (recommended) If you did that you'd be in for $2395, saves $400 since the base price from Chief went up. contact mark@markjamesandco.com

Maybe for expediency but in the long run, it's well worth learning a little up front and developing a system. It will save time and prevent mistakes. Can save time keeping common configurations in your user library and "replace from library" then tweak to suit current conditions. Once in a while I just fish out old plans for details. Last I knew 2020 (I have V9) won't dimension openings either.

If you are using Chief Premier then you can use Detail from view to be able to dimension openings. I use an annoset/layerset that turns off what I don't want to have in the CAD detail. Usually no walls, casings, doors windows or appliances AND NO cabinet doors. You can do it with just a layerset but I have the annosets for different scales. Once done, clean up errant lines, dimension as needed, select all and set it to it's own layer (CAD Openings or such). Then select all and copy it back into your elevation using PASTE and HOLD postion make the layer visible and LOCKED. This allows you to see if you changed something and the dimensions are off. Alternate method is to copy cabinets to a special room for the purpose of getting dimensions. Same procedure BUT you can't readily tell if you changed dimensions. So it's a bit riskier. Using either method the dimensions are NOT LIVE- that is if you change the model they don't change- they are just dumb CAD lines. So you would have to redo them. Grabbed the wrong ones for the first two, didn't notice but you get the idea. IF you do not have Premier download one of the free 2D cad programs out there (or buy a cheap one) export as DWG, then import. Problem with that is copy and paste and hold is not reliable.

Saw you needed it for a 135 degree wall. 3 cabinets, the susans I made early floated, some psolid shelves. Cheryls cabinet.plan

You can get a corner cabinet to indicate susans in plan view using the DBX- but they won't be accurate to how it is build. If what you need is to show susans in 3D with door open then here is one choice. Can't use this as a cabinet with an exposed side (should be obvious) The trick I normally use to fix sides inserting into back doesn't work with the susan in the right side. It would work with it in the left but I was not about to find the correct origins and angle after getting it on the right. Sides will not read correctly in schedule- so just if you need a 3D- susans are 28" D per your spec. Diagonal corner with susan.plan

If you only need a diagonal corner sink base any appropriately sized cabinet can be turned into one-i.e a 36 x 24, then select corner, check diagonal. IF OTOH you want to have that notch at the back as IRL it has to be made from 3 cabinets and the center one needs an increased depth. You can block it and save it. For corner sink bases I used recessed ones for the extra clearance- similar problems. In all cases you will want to adjust the reveals.

I've used some Mesh reducing software on troublesome symbols. There are a few freebies out there. I don't do it often enough to recommend one since I never remember which one I use (might be Meshlabs??) You want one that lets you see what you get so that the symbol still looks decent. Would have to export the symbol on it's own first before opening in the app.