MarkMc

What Eric said-and you're missing the 1" stiles.

thanks

I'm not looking for a texture that is not flat- I'm asking about material or texture that shows reasonably white?

That is absolutely correct unless you are producing a schedule to be used to order cabinets AND whoever you order them from wants them listed individually as "combined" cabinets. I deal with makers who want them listed that way (and one who lists them as the total instead). When we need two cabinets we size each correctly and then force them to overlap so that the sizes read in correctly in the schedule. Note that inset cabinets with 1" stiles as drawn it's likely that something out of the ordinary be done to make hidden hinges work. Even exposed hinges would require specific ones to be used that are not all that common. The only inset with 1" stiles I've done had ALL drawers and pullouts which avoided the problem- we did the wall cabinets as full overlay. I'd talk to the maker to make sure I was happy with how that was being done before going too far.

Graham (and Rene) this and the last thread have both been great. I haven't had a lot of time to use all of this yet since I don't use RTs to sell a job. I only do them later in the process and at that I'm more interested in decent and fast than super realism. To me, since I provide product, super realism can become a dangerous can of worms so we always approach RTs with a grain of salt when it comes to the relationship to real life. When Thea was first being marketed to Kyrathea users I snagged a copy since the price was good and figured it would be good to have in the toolbox. Eventually I came to think otherwise and have not used it in years. Anyway the current status of work is not quite up to using all the tips but I have played a little and this has been an enormous help. Question- what are you using for ceiling texture? The other question is that Chief places a light source at the ceiling that I can't access and often creates a glow in the middle of the ceiling. How can that be gotten rid of?

Contact support- I don't have a problem doing it-at least not to this point.

Certainly is, that never occurred to me. I'd think of that as a sub-category. Here that is done in both Open Office, then in WordPad, then in Chief. I didn't try Notepad or another "plain text" editor. I thought that "text" in Chief was just that-plain text? I see there are a few variations and don't really know the difference but I have a hunch that the word "text" has been expanded (bastardized) in some programs to mean something more to some folks than it originally did. I don't know if the same goes for Rich Text. I looked into that and again there are some flavors depending on OS. The last Microsoft Spec is from 2008. That appears to list the ability to have sub numbering/categories in relation to "Headings" which we don't have in a dumb RT box. I think it worth noting that "Rich Text" does NOT mean results will or should be the same as one gets from a word processor or a DTP program. Even though some formatting can be created in a word processor and pasted into an RT box retaining much of that formatting so long as you don't edit it. I've been creating some things in a WP and pasting into WordPad for many years now to gain formatting not available there. I use that to have a file that opens extremely quickly for reference use-like the attached list of keyboard shortcuts.

Not sure what doesn't work?

I've taken to only using framed in the DBX, for frameless I just use a 3/4" frame. Some advantages when hacking cabinets, a lot easier when the client changes things, started doing it when I took on a frameless line that uses 5/8 sides (metric something I think?)

Use molding line NOT polylines. Polylines are boxes-closed objects. If you switch to molding lines instead of as part of the cabinet they will show in plan view as long as that layer is on. They will be on the molding layer by default, so you have to turn that layer on to see them in elevation or in 3D. What I do- 1)-Snap to one corner of a cabinet and pull a line that is longer than the cabinet to make it easy to see and grab until I have molding on it. (NOTE that if you have a molding selected in the library and then start to draw the molding line it will automagically use that molding making live a little simpler:) BUT if you just grab a molding profile from the library and drop it on the plan it will be a polyline instead of a line) 2)- then adjust the moldings height to be equal to -the height I want it to start at PLUS the thickness of the floor. (someday that will change I hope) (NOTE- Chief OOB defaults will set the floor for a kitchen to be 7/8" even if the rest of the rooms have a 1" floor total. Now I have yet to run into a kitchen where the floor was lower than the rest of the rooms-more often taller. I set all of my floor thickness to equal 1" in the defaults for my templates. Makes the math simpler and as I said closer to IRL) 3)- add any other moldings and adjust height- adjust "extrude inside polyline" if you moldings are on the wrong side of the line. Once drawn. The little square at the end, pull it back to the cabinet corner until it snaps. Then grab the little diamond and drag it to back to the next corner-etc until you have the moldings everywhere you need them. To avoid having to redo the moldings if you need them elsewhere in the room-copy and past to a blank area, select a segment, right click, "disconnect selected edge"- move that out of the way. Delete the rest of the copy. Copy that single molding line anywhere you need it and proceed to fit to the cabinets. I keep molding stacks in a "warehouse plan" for future use. I keep 6 ft lenghts and paste a little cad detail next to that is a section thought the molding stack so I know what it is. I have some named by customer, some named by the molding and brand, and keep them organized by height off floor and ceiling height. Using this method when it comes time to order you can select each line, open the DBX and read the total length of the moldings. Add em up and then add for cuts and you now know how much molding to order. Attached in a zip file is a macro I use that counts cuts and then adds in for cuts to get a total length to order for each molding line. Once imported into the plan use for the label of the molding line -it reads in number of feet how much you need to order (slightly generous but better safe than sorry) Molding Order.zip

Perhaps? what the OP is looking for is the ability to enter a second carriage return (or backspace and then carriage return) to create a new paragraph while continuing the original numbering. This can be done in most word processors and DTP progs with an extra click to "continue numbering". If I had to do that for some reason I'd either use a WP and copy past OR in chief RT box change the line spacing at that line to create the paragraph spacing. Just guessing though.

I had an issue the other day, not quite as bad as what you describe but worth a look anyway. I was suddenly getting extreme lag shortly after opening if more than one tab open (SOP). Was getting to the point of unusable and seamed to only be in Chief. It looked to me to be a mouse issue, checked drivers and such, ran scans. Finally searched on mouse issues-turns out I had moved the USB port my wireless mouse worked in. I saw reference to that wireless mouse connections being too close to wifi, router and the like. I moved the USB back to the original position and the problem went away. Note that it could also have to do with my moving the USB I used for a DisplayLink monitor and the system may be confused but again it was just about only, or at least far worse, in Chief. May be useless but all I've ever run into.

Perhaps the easiest of Michael's suggestions. This was done with molding polyline- I used regular polygon based because your images appeared that way. I might be inclined to use one of his other methods depending on what the actual construction method. I remember back when I was in school someone had made domes as refugee housing down in South America with a machine that extruded foam as it rotated. (turned out to be a problem with water and vermin that one though).. Domes.plan

No those are the only FB items I've used. I use Hafele for LED applications but even then have had very few really suited to that kind of accent lighting, clients didn't go with it anyway. I know 2020 has added some sort of cabinet light system,yes? and they have a Hafele catalog. Not sure if it has lights from them (or legs and stand offs)

attached plan has a couple of Federal and one Hafele but most are the hidden ones. Easy enough to make em. brackets.zip

Trick is to close the layout or it will reference the new plan.

Send first plan, close layout. Reverse plan, "save as", open layout, copy paste in place first layout view to new page, change referenced plan to the "save as" plan. If you already have all the layout boxes sent then just do a save as for the plan and change half of them to reference one plan and leave half to the other.

I use them for architectural elements also still easier to have something to start with-general shape, thickness, height off floor or ground...and alter it. I often convert them to a symbols so I can use replace from library- all identical, or use as a molding symbol (gutter hangers, cornice pieces, newels...) can help with resizing things quickly instead of redrawing the entire thing. I do as few things twice as possible.

Well, un, yeah, no, ...sort of... My take is that say origin is set at absolute 0, 0, with global symbol mapping that is the start point for the texture on every object. I say sort of since I rarely use it unless there is an odd problem with a texture. Then I check it to see if it helps. Not long ago it solved an odd material problem on a fireplace here on the forum. I say sort of since I have no idea how or why that helped.

Don't know what you're using them for but I'm often using them for some part or symbol. Some time ago I took to saving every plan I use to make symbols or parts with, well almost all of em. Recently went through and organized those into sub folders to make them easier to find (almost 2oo in the last year, over 500 total!!) and adapt. Also made a symbol specific template-no room molding, all cabinets set to blank on all sides with 0" separations, and an annoset/ layerset to suit. For the folders-I use Directory Opus, a tabbed file explorer that allows me to save different tab configurations called "listers" so I saved one with just the folders that I use for symbols.

Just tested this. Made a "leaded glass" window from a cabinet(he loves to do that:) Front is opening, back is side panel inset (slab door, glass material) I had some muntins (molding lines and 3D molding lines) around and just sort of placed those to see if this worked. Convert to symbol, system supplies square casing, messed with origin. I don't have X8 on my machine so attached plan and library won't help a lot (they are X9) but figured if someone else needed em for reference. Leaded window.zip leaded window.calibz

Block them after you change the color and add to library-then rename the blocks. For psolids be sure to make one for plan views and one for elevation. Nice to have a shortcut key for "explode architectural block" also nice to have a default fill that you like..

Libraries are the same in Interiors except some details and structural. Easy enough to make from polyline solid in elevation. If you need a molding profile on top will need to do that anyway, then convert to symbol (and save that plan for future use.

Yes it's X9. I haven't tried it but looked like it might be the best solution. The panels I made are difficult to position on the wall. I tried using them as railing, balusters and such.. don't go there. If trying that, might try placing all the panels in a blank plan around a cad circle of proper radius, then raising heights to suit. Then either block or convert the whole batch to a symbol. At least you would only have one thing to position and changes could be made to the panel plan and swapped in and out of library.

Could be pilot error.