MarkMc

Use PDF program to reduce. Unchecking save to plan will only help plan file size NOT the PDF since they would still get printed to it.

Try to sort by date if that's what you need, it's currently sorted by name and Windows isn't so smart.

Be a good idea to fill out your signature with complete system info. Until recently I'd been running 17" laptop with a 6700k, GTX980m 8GB Vram, 32 GB ram, fast M2 Nvme, with two 27" 2k external monitors. Was pretty good in 12 and tested in 13 and also ran ok. I'd already planned on getting a new machine. Laptop end of the summer is just a little snappier than that was, desktop this spring is faster. Both do real time ray trace which was the purpose. What to do depends on your total system now? then budget, type of work, and future plans. One issue is that the next gen of AMD and Intel CPUs are changing sockets so won't be upgradeable. Other thing is coming generation of GPUs are supposed to be a big leap in performance, third is that current GPU market is not great but improving. I normally look at 4-5 years for a system but might be changing the desktop sooner depending on what happens in the next year or two. I knew that before purchasing though but felt I needed RTRT. For reference- PBR in both 12 and 13 will peg GPU at 100% (all 3 machines), x12 usually uses 6GB Vram; 13 is 4-5. CPU use is not as much of an issue with PBR but was a bit higher with the 6700K Standard views with 6700 would see CPU peg briefly, not so with 13. Multiple views, other programs see ram usage though 16GB is fine. A fast C drive makes a big difference. At this point if it were me and I could tolerate waiting to mid winter I would prefer that but a lot depends on the complete system you have now.

That is usually either - a roof connection issue or a psolid or symbol that goes through the roof. I'd bet on the second one but without a plan no telling. Also sun, and or backdrop intensity too high.

I'd say it's a fair bit different. I've used one version or another for over 20 years and prefer it but some things can throw you off a bit. 3D in it is a bear to learn IMO. Closest to ACAD clone is Intellicad and ProgeCad, though both now have 3D which I'm guessing is in current versions of ACAD. Those as well as NanoCad will support LISP and have similar command windows. NanoCad has a Free version. Of all the free CAD options I liked it the best for 2D, might start there.

Need to specify a new door/drawer for it. You can just rename them in library. Then they will allow different materials. You can change the material of the renamed symbol in the library, use a style palette, or in rare cases set as default cabinet.

That is what happens with the cabinets in plan, it is not what is happening with his cabinets in library. This appears to only apply to traditional overlay cabinets (which is why not picked up in Beta)-newly imported library base cabinet. Same item newly imported into X12 library As to the others the problem is with library content, the plan is just fine as are items added to it using the build menu. BUT dragging one of his cabinets from the library do NOT use the defaults for overlap. I believe the OP is sending in a ticket but feel free to download his plan and library to try it out.

Had a look. There are three primary problems all related to using traditional overlay. I missed this during the beta as I have not done a traditional overlay kitchen since Moses parted the Red Sea . In any case Chief does not import the "use default" for Traditional Overlay, Overlap. along with your library-it is correct in 12 there is only one overlap setting for traditional overlay that leads to the third problem in that your library cabinets do not use the default reveal vertically between the door and the drawer (even having a correct cabinet set to default) I suspect that is unavoidable since without having two setting for overlap-vertical and horizontal. I find it very odd that the cabinets appear ok in the plan brought over but not the library? A few things though as you say you have hundreds. I normally don't make a library symbol for every different size since that is slower than resizing IMO- you would need to change the label to a very simple macro to get double door bases to read automatically. I also include a lot more information in library cabinets than you have and rely heavily on defaults. I was already in the process of redoing library cabinets before X13 came along (mostly my clients nowadays since I'm no longer a kitchen) but was waiting for final release. I am not changing them to cabinets in the library though. I'm changing my cabinet brand libraries to be almost entirely Style Palettes. It's worth a look as it is more versatile and IMO faster. To your current predicament- I tested out a Style Palette that will solve the issue in your current plan if you have used the library cabinets you brought over. Attaching that here as a library. Alas you can't paint library cabinets with a style palette but as far as I can tell it works on your library cabinets ONCE the defaults are set properly in the plan. May save you some time. Note that IF your maker has specific and varied reveals for full overlay cabinets (B1D? Wood-Mode?) you will find the changes in X13 far better than using a traditional to hack those. SP test base.zip

Winaero Tweaker

Landing- used detail from view to get curve, copied and moved curve (concentric OR point to point then center), add sides and close pline, convert to landing, remove railing and alter height to suit.

Might take a look at the properties of the ceiling material.

Shelf Ceiling, wall between rooms is a pony wall with bottom of wall as a room divider, edit wall intersection layers at corner where tall wall meets side wall, then make side wall of lowered room is a partition wall (new type if not already in your list), will have to edit molding at corner.

Working here, windows help file is C:\ProgramData\Chief Architect Premier X13\Help\Default.htm See if that shows in a browser. If it does then I'd reboot, have had a few odd things that were fixed that way.

@kwhittI tried stripping down a plan from the one I posted the image of earlier and ran into the same issue you had-no reflections. I used edit area, copy and pasted to a new plan. Both plans use the same materials and same camera/render settings so I don't know what is up with that. OTOH- @Renerabbitt suggestion to use a transparent material works just fine keeping refraction on for both 04 and 07 Which would do it for me as a solution, ez. I also messed around making one side of the glass wall opening no material on the stripped down plan mentioned earlier (and on this one just for grins)-that works fine on the wall even with tempered glass but it doesn't work on the door. Aside, I found out that the export issue I was having was due to using all 3 monitors. After both you and Christine brought mentioned short export times I did some testing with an overhead.

I can't haven't been able to make Kevins work without a workaround. The plan I posted is one sent to me for revision. Has an unfinished bathroom (see image) I just added one extra mirror, capped samples, adjusted background intensity and sun then shot a view. To test what I did .... @kwhitt Just start with a simple house (or as I did grab something handy this one is not mine to post) add a bathroom. Then a shower at one end, glass wall, glass door. Build roof and foundation, put in a couple of mirrors and a couple of lights. Do the rendering settings and shoot a picture. Go from there adding things until you run into trouble.

@kwhitt Yes disabling refractions works about the same as changing the material from glass to just transparent. However the original rendering sample I posted that was inside a shower, with glass door with refraction ON. There is a lot less light going on there and no symbol issues. You're card will work, as Kbird pointed out it will behave similar to a 2070 -a 3000 series card will be 3 to 5 times as fast. (my 3070 is about 5xs as fast as the laptop 2070S which would about match a 2060 S Desktop) Just curious here Have you tried to export image of that rendering? How long is it taking? Do you know which resources are being used if it takes a realistic amount of time. On my desktop I forced close after 20+ minutes .

Can always use PBR with RT turned off. IMO it's still a lot easier, and way faster than CPU RT. Hey, Rene was kind enough to do a session with me on Thea (which I keep in the closet) just before PBR landed. So I understand just how good he is. That said I managed to work out RTRT to my satisfaction and I am not remotely close to his level. For that matter I've tried all of the freebie renders that have been posted in recent years, and did a spin with my Thea back in the day. I find this easier than all of those but then as noted above, I'm not all that good (or patient). Yeah maybe I did invest a little more time in this than those because I was committed to do so.

Yeah tech is wrong if they say it doesn't matter. Agreed and Scott missed it in his presentation. I asked him why it was off and he said no reason. IMO it should be on by default. Which is what I have done to my template defaults to make life simpler. NOTE that if you get a plan from someone with RTRT camera(s), edit camera in project browser to see what settings are for camera and the rendering technique before opening the view. I'm guessing you have built this to work with an outside render. If you want to render in Chief ya gotta do it Chiefs way. my nickel...

Great stuff Rene. Note to check cap live samples or the GPU keeps running

See number 4 above- that is inside a symbol.

Glass used in image I posted is standard tempered glass with color changed and an almost OOB rendering technique- other than Sun turned down, day time back ground turned down, cap live samples (you musta been asleep for that one Mick). Not also that is an OOB glass wall and glass door-(see below) Simply turning off refraction in rendering technique works with what you have now. screenshot at 30 seconds. Things in your plan that may or may not contribute to the problem Extra materials defined in both the wall and the door I avoid using railing walls for showers in general. I prefer to start with a glass wall, change to pony wall and adjust height the sides of the shower enclosure don't go to the ceiling allowing light to come into the area creating reflections on the inside of the glass. This can be challenging to address in the design as it is-that's one for Rene you have a interior fixture symbol sitting on the top of the entire enclosure. This can alter how light is handled. As it is now your camera is not only inside a room but inside a symbol. There is something weird about your mirrors. The materials for that are odd and perspective overview shows them partly set inside the fixture they are in. IMO this is NOT a Chief problem. I believe the biggest issues are 4 and 5. Now I do have one plan that I've lots of light leaks on intriors form but that model has horrible wall definitions and gaps where the room meets the walls, it's just that kind of structure. The leaks only appear at the gaps though, none of the issues Mick is showing once settings and model are goo. (I ended up floating extra roofs over it for interior shots) I would add that something, textures or symbols are as Mick points out wreaking havoc. For the render to release the GPU takes an enormous amount of time. Do NOT attempt to export this image. I tested that and forced chief to close after 20 minutes. You would be better off with a CPU RT, maybe. I've tested plans with an 150 custom symbols, dozens of custom textures and almost a hundred lights that did not take anywhere near the amount of time this takes to resolve. I don't think I've had anything over 6 or 7 minutes, most export image between 30 seconds and 2 minutes.

I grabbed a job that just came that I knew had a bath in it, added one mirror and took a really quick shot from inside the shower-both mirrors show reflections. This is on a 3070, zero effort put into this.

Mmm, could be. I tried in both Bluebeam and TurboPDF (which is Foxit) and both are full pdf programs, not just readers.

Odd, wonder why not for me? maybe post the layout and plan? I tried this in both vector and standard of ortho overview and tried at two scales