GeneDavis

I'd suggest it be a 5-kite winder.

I think you should get your help from the license owner, not us. You didn't actually steal software, but the licensee is the one who should be assisting you. We're not quite with you in this effort. Good luck.

Ah, the beauty of snaps. I couldn't build without 'em.

Thanks, everybody! I got by for now doing the simple select-then-drag, which worked. But back to the symbol and it's "cut hole" thing. This particular Kohler from the bonus Kohler library (I'll come back with ID) has a not-right hole-cut polyline. I recall getting this three or four releases ago and learning how to edit it, but haven't gotten the skill back. I thought it was something in the CAD block.

What's the trick to this? I placed a Kohler sink, it plops into the center front to back, and I need it a couple inches toward the front. I opened the symbol and changed the origin, and the sink moves, but how does one get the cutout to move? Oh, and how does one get the cutout to match the Kohler spec with round fillet corners? This one came in with square corners. Going into CAD block management, I open the block for the sink, and there are two almost identical perimeter polylines one sitting atop the other, that seems to be the perimeter, and both have corner fillets. The proper cutout for this sink is a concentric offset polyline to get the sink hole almost in line with the vertical faces of the sink. You know the drill. Guidance is appreciated as always.

I don't know a way, but what you want would be a great feature to have. Unless a wizard shows us a way, you should suggest a mod.

Give us your example of clean. Also show us Chief not-clean. We cannot help without seeing what you see. Please use screencaps and attach the images to your post.

Yes! Mark, you are the expert. I wanted a 1/8" reveal at top so I reset that overlay number accordingly. Now, tell me how I can get the same 1/8 reveal on the cab to its left. I believe this might involve making another door symbol

I have a plan brought forward from X12 and to a new computer, on which I do not have any of my X12 user library things. Why I was so dumb is another story. Wanting an open-front cabinet instead of the hinged door one, I built a symbol in Sketchup of the open-center door, just as I had done for the wall cabs doors in this plan (back in X12). The scheme for these wallcabs is that the doors overshoot the bottom decks of the wallcabs by 1.25 inches, so as to create a cavity under for undercab lighting and more. My symbol for the "door" has its origin set so the 1.25 hang is right, but I cannot get the top right. See the pic and see the plan. Open face.plan

Sold as "cow panel" in Texas, the natives of which have a fine way with words.

Who builds by using a scale on prints? Are you using Chief print-to-pdf? At 1:1? As for printing, I'd only trust a repro shop that regularly does con docs. Or an excellent online biz like blueprintprinting.com.

I can make that work, but want the blocked pair to be assigned a single cabinet label for planview and schedule. Edit. And . . . I figure it out. Now I've a second way to do fridge panels, and this one shows correct in planview without all the other cabs needing to display doors and drawerfronts.

Thought I'd start a new thread because this isn't how to build a fridge panel with the cabs tools, but how to control visibility in a plan. I got totally stumped trying to get the 2D planview to show the panel with its stile front, but finally read all the fine print, watched Mark's vid, read KBird's post, and it dawned. Go to Plan Defaults, Cabinets, and check to view doors and drawerfronts in plan view. I built my fridge panels and saved them as library objects. Now how can I place in a plan and for only the fridge panels, see in plan view the doors and drawerfronts, but only for the fridge panels?

Thanks to Mark and KBird and others who have helped me.

I spent an hour last night in X13 trying to scratch build one alongside the one in Mark's file, and am failing to do whatever little move is needed to get a panel to render proper in 3d. This application of the cabinet tool has to be one of the most non-intuitive things done in Chief, to get a result needed in most every kitchen. it deserves a video that clearly describes the steps.

It's Danver with an A.

OK, I downloaded the plan MarkMcK posted and manipulated the side-panel-as-cabinet to get the slab side and front 1x2 stile, but while it shows as it should in 3D it does not look like what Mark can do in another plan he did (not posted plan, images only). I show here my results and in one image of plan view, show how the cab looks and in another image, show my preferred look, which allows me to easily call out in a zoom detail of the plan view, how the panel is made of a slab with a stile front. How do you do it, Mark?

Because the trusses have 2x8 top chords and the builder wanted it this way.

Exact. https://3d-viewer.chiefarchitect.com/go?share=453127181375659

Can you better explain for me: "face and side are side panel inset?" Your image looks like a cabinet side with 3" width faceframe stile, nothing else.

Can't use Chief at the moment. An island is 24d and 12d basecabs backed to each other, and need end panels, stile and rail, bottom rail tall, others all with width equal to what the flat panel shaker doors have. Fridge panels are painted 3/4 ply but have 1-1/2 wide face parts. To get the look in 3D I used 1.5 thick partitions. Now I want this better detailed so the schedule includes these panel items and shown the way they'll be bought and installed.

If you want an image to share, or import to a layout page, doing the surface-delete thing doesn't take much work.

Only way I know is to break the wall into multiple segments.

3D molding polyline.

Are you well-trained in HVAC design? Are you being paid by the hour to do this? Chief CAD will work OK to do this. If you have some 2D images or drawings of fittings in plan view, you can use to draw Chief CAD atop, then copy and place wherever needed.