GeneDavis

Works great. See result.

What I might try is to draw an appropriately sized roof and ceiling below, generate the needed truss, and convert it to a symbol. I can rotate the symbol.

We've a skylight with a plumb and "square" (I'd say "normal") sides to the shaft. I am unable to rotate a truss to do the normal side of the shaft, between the "girders" at the ends. Suggestions welcome.

Here you go. I did a smaller sconce and included it. Barn lights.calibz

From the barn light catalog, which is extensive, I married one of their 24" shades to a right-sized gooseneck they offer. Did it in SU and exported it to a .dae, which of course you can import into Chief. There are materials drawn differently, so you can do the lamp in an emissive white or whatever. As with any light symbol, import it as "electrical," specify it with the "light" option, then place the origin where it belongs, and in the object's dbx, add appropriate light or lights. Barn light gooseneck 24 inch shade.dae

Chief can export 3D in many formats, and SU Pro can import everything Chief can do. Export your model every 3D way you can. You need to be in a 3D view to do so. Send your colleague all the files, so they can find the one which works best for their need. I'm a cheapster and use free SU Make 2017. It'll only import a Collada .dae file, but it suits my needs. Edit: there is a 2-year-old video on YouTube showing a Chief file exported and then imported into SU.

That's a good point you make about the slab boundary. You should write up a suggestion and post it in that subforum. Slabs bearing into notched walls with insulation board edges is a real thing out there. You can find writeups, videos, and see CAD details at lots of sites. Chief can certainly program for this build option, but you need to be specific and give them examples.

It does not work for me in either RTRT or PBR. Am I setting up wrong?

Equal pitch, the short side gets the taller wall. Done per my description above, from an auto generated hipped roof, in 55 seconds. My mouse moves ain't what they used to be.

To get the saltbox roof you will need to understand manual roof editing ops. Turn off auto roof generation Select the ridge top edge of on side, drag it "up" about a foot, open its dbx and copy its ridge height. In plan view, select the lower roof's ridge, move it to snap-join the other. Now open the dbx of the smaller roof you just edited, lock its pitch, and past in that ridge height.

The tool is the S with the x. Look for it when you have a 3d view up.

I tried this in the General Q and A and got no bites, so I will try it here where it belongs, where we discuss and present symbol stuff. My file is attached. The fixture is one I got from the 3D Warehouse long ago, and it is not there now, but I had it in my archives. It is a better model than the one I placed in the thread in Q and A. It this one, the skin of the lamp is nicely done to emulate the stretching over the ribs and the belly-ing between, as exists in the real fixture. I love midcentury modern, and these Nelson bubbles are perfect fixtures for classically-done MCM interiors. The lamp has materials assigned to each element so it is all controllable. What has to be studied and worked on some more, I think, is the skin, with its properties of sheen, translucency, and emissivity to light it up the way the for-real lamps do when the big white globe lamp inside is lit. As can be seen when you examine my model, I tried to do this with lights assigned both to the fixture, and lights placed around outside the fixture. If you are a lighting tinkerer, I would like to see what you can do with this. Thanks. Attached is the file, plus two screencaps of renders, one done with RTRT, the other (better) with CPU RT. I also attached a photo of one in a room. Note how the fixture's skin has translucency to exibit the ribs showing through. I'd like to get there. Nelson saucer.zip

If you are doing parallel chord trusses at 16" depth, simply set your roof structure up that way, with 16" deep rafters. Chief will position the drywll ceilings and your envelope is all set for your trusses. Chief does not generate truss framing. You do it, manually. Watch some training videos. Do NOT set roofs to auto-frame. Place all trusses where they belong. I set the ridge size in the framing spec dialog to 2x4, so when I autoframe the roof all the ridge and valley fill gets placed. Autoframe will place all the subfascia per your size specs. The only time you draw ceiling planes is when you're doing ceilings that aren't flat and pitches don't match roofs above.

I'm gonna do it with roof planes! And then, terrain!

Post the plan. Should be small enough to not have to compress. Something's up with the attic rooms.

I got this from the 3D Warehouse, and modified the model to add the ribs and segment out the materials so Chief could be used to assign them properly. I cannot seem to get the right combination of materials, emissivity and translucency, plus light types, strengths, and position to get a realistic render. Plus, and this is big, CPU raytrace and PBR deliver very different looks. What can you do to guide me. Nelson saucer.plan

So here is the new challenge. Use Chief and make the one I showed upthread, the one sitting up on CMUs.

Sketchup used to be free, or rather, one could download a version of the program and have it reside on your hard drive. I have the last of those releases, Sketchup Make 2017, on my PC. I believe that now you have to subscribe to get Sketchup, and it is not inexpensive. That one I showed upthread is a very well thought out design, and the model, which I downloaded from the warehouse, is very well done. A rather ingenious thing is done to make the screen panels inside the U, the three you need for access, as rollups. And as I said upthread, trained users can model what you showed in Chief, and they have showed it. But you want a material list, and a drawing or drawings, so someone can actually built this. Chief will not deliver this. I took the SU model and isolated just the upper frame assembly and quickly took measurements. See the attached. I can quickly count and list the parts, all of which are from 1x2 lumber. Doing the beds part would go just as fast.

Chief is not really the application for your task. Others may say yes you can model it, and yes, you can, but there are some tricks in doing the modeling that will require you to get deep into Chief know-how. It ain't a starter project. You want to produce drawings and a material list for building this, and the material list part is going to be well nigh impossible for Chief to do it "automatically." There is 2x2 lumber, 1x4 lumber, wire fabric, hinges, a door latch, all of which you are best figured out manually and typed into text to put the list on the drawing. I could do this in Sketchup in twenty minutes. Edit: I opened up Sketchup, and went to the 3D Warehouse to see what was there, and look. Very well thought out. An irrigation line for doing drip, roll up screening in just enough area to be able to access everything, and the blocks have it up high enough for no-stoop access. No hinged door needed.

Here is my section view of wall cabinets. Whatever backsplash there is goes up to the bottom of the plugstrip molding.

Thanks, Mark. That was the refresher I needed. I somehow misremembered something to do with a door symbol with an origin up off the bottom by the overhang amount. I see it is the item reveal that is the setting. But it's an almost right, no? There's no way to get an 1/8" reveal between double doors, is there?

I cannot remember how this is done. I have come close in the past but I think Mr Cab Wizard, Mark, gave me a file with the cab I needed. I want to know how to do this from the ground up. Wall cabinets only. A frameless look. Plain "shaker" doors, just frame and panel. 1/8" reveal at top. 1/16" reveals at sides. 1/8" margin between double doors. 1-1/4" overhang at bottom. This for the way we do the undercab lighting, and the way we do the plug-strip molding for receptacles at rear. I built a door symbol in Sketchup, imported it into Chief and classified it as a "door/drawerfront." Set its origin up 1.25" from the bottom. Placed a thin stretch zone vertically to do proper width resizing. Tried using it as the door in a wall cabinet, and failed. Cab trial.plan

Here you go. Great information here. http://www.enconunited.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/HCM002-Hollow-core-Residential-Design-Manual-Complete-3.23.15.pdf

Glenn, I am just following what I believe to be the conventional wisdom as re walkout basement builds. Here is Chief's Scott showing us how. https://www.chiefarchitect.com/videos/watch/51/creating-a-walkout-basement.html?playlist=101 Here is a file of a model I did for Chief's techs out in the support office, where I filed my ticket about this problem with my job model. It did not exhibit the behavior, but I did not build any framed walls to fur against the foundation. Test floor.plan

Thanks, Steve, for the work and the video. And thanks, Ryan, for your observations. I sent the file in with a ticket to Chief, and I also sent them this test file, same kind of condition, which does NOT exhibit the problem. There is something screwy in my job file. Test floor.plan